You and me both. The sign of a great game is lengthy discussion about its strategy. And no clear cut line of right vs. a wrong way. That's what I love about this game. From another thread if you make a commerce food city, you can get by with ZERO production if you have slavery. Your population willl explode, and you sacrifice one and ding! Building is complete! Of course your population (in that city) are made for a while, but who cares? Your populaiton is totally expendable and they breed like rabbits. From what I read, was to stay ins lavery until you get these commerce breadbaskets pretty well set, then change to a decent civic after that. Then you've got a city that pumps out cash like a monkey on fire.