I don't know that I ever have either. Best I've ever had is the Glenlivet Tim mentioned earlier. I almost never actually buy it. I think I've gone through 3 bottles lifetime. Is nice to sip on as the ice cubes melt and change the profile. But I don't taste all that well, so I wouldn't really take my word on it. I'm more likely to buy Ice House malt liquor than scotch in any given month.