Dumb blonde question

Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by kiwikim, Feb 1, 2006.

  1. kiwikim

    kiwikim Chieftain

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    Hi folks,

    Hoping maybe someone can help me with my latest problem that is sure to have an obvious answer (I hope). I have been able to build machine guns and riflemen for a while in my latest game, but have now found that the option for both them have disappeared. This coincided with my discovering rocketry, and resulted in all the machine guns I was building being turned into Sam infantry (totally useless at this stage, because no one else is anywhere near to dicovering flight, except me)

    I've checked in the back of the manual, where it says that both riflemen and machine guns are not dependent on resources, so it can't be that I've lost the crucial resource (and I don't think I have lost any). But obviously something has gone wrong, but just what is beyond me. Any suggestions? Am I just being blonde again? (no stereotyping intended!! I'm blonde and allowed to make fun of myself before any other blondes out there climb on their soap boxes :lol: )
     
  2. Vaiks

    Vaiks Chieftain

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    kiwikim,

    Once you have access to an improved version of a unit, the older canot be built any longer. When you gain access to cavalry, you will not be able to build knights any more, the same for moder armor and tanks, cavalry and gunship, etc...

    But I see no point on not building the newer units, since they have better stats overall.
     
  3. kiwikim

    kiwikim Chieftain

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    Hmmm, I am sure that in the previous games I've played the machine gun option remained, and I thought that riflemen where replaced by infantry?
     
  4. mutax2003

    mutax2003 Rider of China, 4-3-3

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    SAM infantry, the "SAM" refers to "surface to air missile".
     
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    Meffy humanoid skunk

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    Big savings on bulk-priced name tags.
     
  6. MetHimPikeHoses

    MetHimPikeHoses Unarmed Insurgent

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    :lol:

    I Am SAM, starring Sean Penn
     
  7. xonixs

    xonixs Warlord

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    because John refers to the Joint Operation against Hungarian Natives, which we will initiate tomorrow...

    Ups it was meant to be a secret - goofy me :)
     
  8. thordk

    thordk Prince

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    i thought it was the jealous orthopaedists havoc of narcotics
     
  9. sligo

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    All sillyness aside, I'd like to know the answer as well. I had a similar issue with modern tanks - I had the necessary resources, but all of a sudden I couldn't build them any more.

    I'm wondering that if you gain a tech that upgrades your units to a new version, but the new version requires you to have a certain resource. Kind of leaves you in a catch-22, but I would think the system should still let you build the obsolete unit.

    - Sligo
     
  10. oagersnap

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    Are you sure you didn't trade those resources away?
    Also, if you don't have the necessary resources to build a new unit, you can still build the old version.
     
  11. Bushface

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    @Kiwikim - There are no resource requirements for Musketmen,Riflemen, Redcoats, Infantry, Machine Gun or SAM infantry, just the respective techs, and the game is written in the expectation that the newer units will be the ones most appropriate. This can indeed be a drawback if you are noticeably ahead of your rivals, and the obvious thing to do is to get yourself still further ahead so that you can mince the enemy with tanks etc. for which you, most definitely, need Oil. The 'tank' tech, Industrialism, must be surely be within fairly easy reach.
     
  12. aronk76

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    In all seriousness, to answer your question. In the US Military (and most others I presume) they do call "Surface to Air Missiles," SAMs.
     
  13. Bushface

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    This seems a good place to repeat a joke from the Arab-Israeli war. It was said that the Arabs sent a message to their arms suppliers, saying "Stop sending surface-to-air missiles. Send surface-to-aircraft missiles."
     
  14. sligo

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    "Our aim is to make SAM's effective. Your aim will help!"

    lol

    - Sligo
     

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