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Dynamic Civ Names

Discussion in 'Rhye's and Fall: Europe' started by AbsintheRed, Nov 5, 2011.

  1. AbsintheRed

    AbsintheRed Chieftain

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    I made a new thread for this, to collect all the suggestions and improvements for DCNames in the same place.
    Also a place where I can constantly update the opening post thus keeping everything clear

    Basic rules:
    At the moment these are the Dynamic Civ Names in RFCE:
    Byzantium, France, Arabia:
    Spoiler :

    Bulgaria, Cordoba, Norse
    Spoiler :

    Venice, Burgundy, Germany, Kiev
    Spoiler :
     
  2. AbsintheRed

    AbsintheRed Chieftain

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    Hungary, Spain, Poland, Genoa
    Spoiler :

    England, Portugal, Lithuania, Austria
    Spoiler :

    Ottoman, Moscow, Sweden, Dutch
    Spoiler :
     
  3. AbsintheRed

    AbsintheRed Chieftain

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    Alright, the basic dynamic names are there for all the civs
    Please help me expanding them
    Currently most of them are pretty generic - besides of Bulgaria perhaps
    Let's hear your suggestions!
     
  4. Voyelles

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    Here are some suggestions for flavorful French names. Let us know what you think:


    DCN for France:
    Vassal of Byzantium: Exarchate of Gallia
    Vassal of Arabia: Emirate of Frangistan
    Vassal of Cordoba : Emirate of Poitiers
    Vassal of Spain: Viceroyalty of France
    Vassal of Norse/Sweden: Duchy of Normandy
    Vassal of Venice: Venetian France
    Vassal of Russia/Kiev: Russian France
    Vassal of Germany: Western Francia
    Vassal of England: Duchy of Chinon
    Vassal of Austria: Habsburg France
    Vassal of Ottomans: Principality of Frangistan
    Vassal of Burgundy: Western Francia
    Generic Vassal (all the other civs): Province of France

    Under Merchant Republic with Islam: French Islamic Republic
    Under Merchant Republic: French Republic
    Islam State Religion: Sultanate of France

    IF Burgundy AND Germany vassalised : Roman Empire


    Default name (if nothing else is true from the ones above):
    from start : Kingdom of the Franks
    from 987 AD: Kingdom of France
     
  5. AbsintheRed

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    I like them, will include all of them if there are no objections
    One question though:
    Don't you want to expand it further?
    Have a Frankish Empire if you gained enough provinces before 840
    Or French Empire if your civ is huge and powerful in the colonization era
    I'm sure there are plenty other option as well...
     
  6. Sian

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    DCN for Norse:
    Vassal of Byzantium: Exarchate of Scandinavia
    Vassal of France: Duchy of Denmark
    Vassal of Arabia/Cordoba: Scandinavian Emirate
    Vassal of Spain: Spanish Kingdom of Scandinavia
    Vassal of Sweden: Kingdom of Denmark
    Vassal of Venice: Venetian Scandinavia
    Vassal of Russia/Kiev: Russian Scandinavia
    Vassal of Germany: German Scandinavia
    Vassal of England: Counties of Scandinavia
    Vassal of Austria: Habsburg Scandinavia
    Vassal of Ottomans: Principality of Iskandinavya
    Generic Vassal (all the other civs): Province of Scandinavia

    Under Paganism: Viking Kingdoms
    Controls Vestfold, Norway, Gotaland and Svealand: Kalmar Union
    Under Merchant Republic with Islam: Nordic Islamic Republic
    Under Merchant Republic: Danish-Norwegian Republic
    Islam State Religion: Islamic Nordic Sultanates
    Default name (if nothing else is true from the ones above): Empire of Denmark and Norway
     
  7. AbsintheRed

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    Thanks Sian, will include these too
    But the same is true here as for France: probably it could be expanded further
     
  8. Sian

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    When Dutch is the vassal of Norse/Sweden their name should be "Norse Frisia", given that the Frisians was those the Norse had primary contact with
     
  9. Morholt

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    Arabia:
    All of the following assumes Islam is the state religion:
    On Founding: Rashidun Caliphate
    661 AD: Umayyad Caliphate
    750 AD: Abbasid Caliphate
    909 AD and controls Egypt: Fatimid Caliphate
    1171 AD and controls Egypt: Ayyubid Sultanate
    1250 AD and controls Egypt: Mamluk Sultanate

    If not Muslim: Outremer?
     
  10. Sian

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    could you check if the DCN for Lithuania is made correctly? ... in my game as germany i vassaled them without them changing name to German Baltics
     
  11. AbsintheRed

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    I don't see any issues there
    Which version do you play with?
    I only updated the Lithuanian names recently (SVN update 815)
     
  12. AbsintheRed

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    Thanks guys, will also update these
     
  13. Voyelles

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    Further to your feedback, here are my latest French propositions:

    DCN for France:
    Vassal of Byzantium: Exarchate of Gallia
    Vassal of Arabia: Emirate of Frangistan
    Vassal of Cordoba : Emirate of Poitiers
    Vassal of Spain: Viceroyalty of France
    Vassal of Norse/Sweden: Duchy of Normandy
    Vassal of Venice: Venetian France
    Vassal of Russia/Kiev: Russian France
    Vassal of Germany: Western Francia
    Vassal of England: Duchy of Chinon
    Vassal of Austria: Habsburg France
    Vassal of Ottomans: Principality of Frangistan
    Vassal of Burgundy: Western Francia
    Generic Vassal (all the other civs): Province of France

    Under Merchant Republic with Islam: French Islamic Republic
    Under Merchant Republic: French Republic
    Islam State Religion: Sultanate of France

    IF Ile-de-France, Picardy, Normandy, Orléans, Aquitania, Burgundy, Provence, Catalonia, Lombardy, Tuscany, Swabia, Lorraine, Saxony controlled : Western Empire [this is UHV 1 + Normandy]
    Burgundy AND Germany vassalised : Western Empire

    ANY 2 Vassals or more: Empire of France
    2 colonial projects completed : Empire of France

    Default name (if nothing else is true from the ones above):
    from start : Kingdom of the Franks
    from 987 AD: Capetian Kingdom of France
    from 1489 AD: Valois Kingdom of France
    from 1589 AD: Bourbon Kingdom of France


    Finally, I believe Germany and Burgundy should have a similar mechanic when achieving the Western Empire through vassalisation or otherwise.
     
  14. AbsintheRed

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    Sian (and everyone else), what do you think about this for the Norse:

    Vassal of Byzantium: Exarchate of Scandinavia
    Vassal of France: Duchy of Denmark
    Vassal of Arabia/Cordoba: Scandinavian Emirate
    Vassal of Spain: Spanish Kingdom of Scandinavia
    Vassal of Sweden: Kingdom of Denmark
    Vassal of Venice: Venetian Scandinavia
    Vassal of Russia/Kiev: Russian Scandinavia
    Vassal of Germany: German Scandinavia
    Vassal of England: Counties of Scandinavia
    Vassal of Austria: Habsburg Scandinavia
    Vassal of Ottomans: Principality of Iskandinavya
    Generic Vassal (all the other civs): Province of Scandinavia
    Master of Sweden: Kalmar Union

    Under Merchant Republic with Islam: Nordic Islamic Republic
    With Merchant Republic and Paganism civics: Viking Republic
    With Merchant Republic and controls Svaeland: Kalmar Republic
    With Merchant Republic and controls Norway: Danish-Norwegian Republic
    Under Merchant Republic: Danish Republic
    With Paganism civic: Viking Kingdoms
    Islam State Religion: Islamic Nordic Sultanates
    Controls Svealand province: Kalmar Union
    Controls Norway province: Kingdoms of Denmark and Norway
    Default name (if nothing else is true from the ones above): Kingdom of Denmark
     
  15. Sian

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    minor question ... what happens if several is true (say, contolling Noway, under Islam and Master of sweden)

    is it take from top, first that fits?
     
  16. AbsintheRed

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    Yep, you are right
    From the first post:

     
  17. Sian

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    failed a spot check then ... looks great
     
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    Nah too boring, it should be more connected with Varangians, maybe like just Varangian or Varyag Kingdom(s).
     
  19. AbsintheRed

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    Shouldn't Varangian names only be the other way around?
    When Norse/Swedish Vikings establish a ruling class above other nations?
     
  20. corovanrobber

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    You'd think the Varangians just decided to rule their homeland Scandinavia too, and do it from Ruthenia since that's where they live anyway at this point. It's dubious though.
     

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