Olson
Warlord
In Civ's I-III we didn't have overflow and I didn't realize Civ IV (C4) did until I saw it mentioned somewhere on the Forums. Until then I was simply unknowing why the first build was often less expensive than the others queued. I wasn't sure if overflow applied to teching until the following:
I'm researching (teching) Mysticism (65 beaker cost) with Polytheism (Poly) queued and am at 55/65 beakers needed and producing 11 beakers/turn @ 100%.
I reduce research to 80% (8.80 beakers) and end turn (ET).
Now I have 64/65 and increase tech to 100% (11 beakers). ET.
I get Myst. and the overflow is showing in the green Poly progress bar and/but the pop-up states "9 turns (0/130)". I'm thinking 9t x 11 beakers/t = 99 beakers...31 short! How about 130 - 10 (Myst. overflow) = 120; take 120/9 = 13.33 beakers/t....but I'm doing 11/t @ 100%!
Since the green progress bar shows overflow but the pop-up states "9 turns (0/130)" I figure I have to ET to get a true calculation of my progress. I stay @ 100% (11 beakers) and ET.
Now, after 1t of tech'g Poly @ 11/t (+ 10 beaker overflow from Myst), I have 27/130! I was expecting 21/130. From where did the other 6 beakers come?
I searched the Forums and War Academy and found: http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/strategy/tech_research.php
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/strategy/tech_research.php
and was reminded Civ3 (C3) research (and maybe CivI & CivII, also) was influenced by how many civs there are, how many already have the tech, and how many civs with the tech one has met. I never learned the formula as it was well enough that I got the general gist of what was going on.
In the above, I'm playing Qin/China in a 7civ, normal speed, Civ4-Warlord (C4W)@Noble game with no contacts yet. I tech'd Myst. by 3720BC and, so far, no one knows Polytheism (since Hinduism isn't announced as being founded). But I'm confident someone somewhere started with, tech'd, or goodyd Myst.
So, from where did the extra 6 beakers come? I'd like to do it some more.
[Addendum: A few of turns later...
I'm tekg Poly @ 12/t (100%) and am told "2 turns (102/130)". But in 2t I'll add only 24 beakers, giving me 126/130). BTW, I met Brennus/Celts whom have Myst. as a starting tech. Poly's Hinduism is still up for grabs.]
[Edit: Is 'Noble' not the 0 modified difficulty level?]
I'm researching (teching) Mysticism (65 beaker cost) with Polytheism (Poly) queued and am at 55/65 beakers needed and producing 11 beakers/turn @ 100%.
I reduce research to 80% (8.80 beakers) and end turn (ET).
Now I have 64/65 and increase tech to 100% (11 beakers). ET.
I get Myst. and the overflow is showing in the green Poly progress bar and/but the pop-up states "9 turns (0/130)". I'm thinking 9t x 11 beakers/t = 99 beakers...31 short! How about 130 - 10 (Myst. overflow) = 120; take 120/9 = 13.33 beakers/t....but I'm doing 11/t @ 100%!
Since the green progress bar shows overflow but the pop-up states "9 turns (0/130)" I figure I have to ET to get a true calculation of my progress. I stay @ 100% (11 beakers) and ET.
Now, after 1t of tech'g Poly @ 11/t (+ 10 beaker overflow from Myst), I have 27/130! I was expecting 21/130. From where did the other 6 beakers come?
I searched the Forums and War Academy and found: http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/strategy/tech_research.php
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ4/strategy/tech_research.php
and was reminded Civ3 (C3) research (and maybe CivI & CivII, also) was influenced by how many civs there are, how many already have the tech, and how many civs with the tech one has met. I never learned the formula as it was well enough that I got the general gist of what was going on.
In the above, I'm playing Qin/China in a 7civ, normal speed, Civ4-Warlord (C4W)@Noble game with no contacts yet. I tech'd Myst. by 3720BC and, so far, no one knows Polytheism (since Hinduism isn't announced as being founded). But I'm confident someone somewhere started with, tech'd, or goodyd Myst.
So, from where did the extra 6 beakers come? I'd like to do it some more.
[Addendum: A few of turns later...
I'm tekg Poly @ 12/t (100%) and am told "2 turns (102/130)". But in 2t I'll add only 24 beakers, giving me 126/130). BTW, I met Brennus/Celts whom have Myst. as a starting tech. Poly's Hinduism is still up for grabs.]
[Edit: Is 'Noble' not the 0 modified difficulty level?]