What Knoedel said WAS rude, I agree... but that being said, considering it was to me and we have a history, I take no offense. He is just a kid who doesn't understand how things on the internet come across, probably because his entire life had the internet in it, so he just doesn't know otherwise. Water under the bridge. As for my original post - I most definitely could be wrong. I play a lot of games and can be forgetful of details, and I have been playing nothing but mods in single player over the last few years, so maybe its the mod, maybe its me. I just remember having the option to release a vassal as its master and having it work (cancelling the vassal arrangement). Maybe they were a peace-vassal and the rules are different? Maybe the right conditions were met? I don't know... considering the response I'm probably just remembering it wrong. Either way, I just know I've never had issues with the vassalage system in this game, but also because I am very careful with how I take on vassals... The point is everyone knows my stance, so unless the overwhelming majority agree with Knoedel's proposed rule change, I won't be changing anything, as admin. I just prefer to keep my games clean from house rules and let them play out as the game was made.