easiest way to generate an isolated start?

[gaash2]

Any ideas for generating vs downloading existing isolated starts? I don't mind having to check that it's isolated in world builder. Real isolated, not the kind where you can connect everyone through small islands. I've tried fractal and continents (not custom continents) and sometimes it works but the hit rate is quite low. Obviously, islands works, but I want an isolate start where not everyone is isolated.

 

[sampsa]

Fractal. I'd guess +10% are isolated.

 

[lymond]

I play Fractral almost exclusively and I'd say it's about 1 in 5 isolated. Note you can use the Regen button as well. Just setup the options you want and regen/check iso until you score. Fractal is the best option for what you are describing.

 

[gaash2]

Cool thanks.. yea I've been trying continents and fractal and regen ... was taking a lloooong time though so thought maybe there was a better way.

 

[elitetroops]

If you use the regenerate map button in worldbuilder, it shouldn't take that long to find one.

I don't have code-level knowledge about this, but it does appear to me that fractal is more likely to place the human player in isolation on higher difficulty levels. On noble isolated starts are very rare.

 

[Fippy]

I used to create 6 custom continents, rather easy getting isolated there (2 AIs on one continent, and everyone else alone) but small isles can easily connect AIs and you have to look for that on your continent too ofc, for real Iso.

These were usually more difficult than fractal, as all AIs can and usually will get big..20 cities or more not rare.

 

[Tatran]

Huge Hemispheres, 11 players, 6 continents, Monarch -> unless there are bananas on your continent, you will be isolated.
And a small chance there will be a coastal/ocean connection with another continent.
All other continents will have 2 AIs.
Maybe you will be isolated too at Immortal level, but certainly not at Emperor.

 

[gaash2]

thanks for the replies! i found fractal was indeed the easiest to get there.. probably 5-10% were isolated without connections via little islands or coast -> coast.... lost my first attempt by 8 turns to a boudica space ship though eh ...

 

[unas876]

So there is no way of 100% generating an isolated start and play it completely blind?

 

[Tatran]

So there is no way of 100% generating an isolated start and play it completely blind?

With medium or better high sealevels with the settings in my previous post (low sea level), you will get a 100% isolated start if you also reduce the amount of players.

 

[Gr8scott]

I use fractal. If you are willing to swap you civ's starting spot with an AI civ that starts isolated, you can roll up an isolated start pretty fast.