I don't talk for everyone, never will. But, when I first played this game... I was unimpressed. Not just with the bugs, but with the direction. However, since the patch... I dunno if it was the patch, or time with the game or what, but it's gotten so much better! Seriously, it has me hooked! The AI seems more assertive, if but a little, and Emperor isn't a walk in the park anymore. (And don't give me the OMG it's easy stuff. I'm sure I could manipulate the game into winning easily with early rushes, or correct settings.) Also, flavor in a few mods, (Again, I don't want to hear people saying why should we mod an unfinished game. The point of mods is no two people want the same exact game. It's a GOOD thing to be able to customize your game. It's a GOOD thing to be able to add features you want that others may not.) And it's been... fantastic. As for DLC. I'm not a fan, never have been... But the more I think on it, it's going to be pretty cool to see packs with new buildings and new little tweaks that can add new strategies and new ways to play the game. I /hope/ the company sees it this way and doesn't overcharge with meaningless junk. If Firaxis makes DLC worth buying at a reasonable price, I don't see any problem with DLC. We will see how it goes, obviously. But... I am excited to see if they do building packs, etc. So... I guess I just wanted to stand up and eat some crow. All of the OMG CIV V FAIL, in my opinion, was over reaction without actually... giving the game a chance. If anyone else wants to add to it, feel free.