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Ebola - Red Alert in Nigeria

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Loppan Torkel, Jul 26, 2014.

  1. timtofly

    timtofly One Day

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    Trying to speed up evolution?
     
  2. kramerfan86

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    It really boggles the mind, especially with a disease like this where a person can be perfectly healthy looking when they board the flight and exit the flight, but quickly can become ill and contagious after they are in the general public. Its honestly really agitating me that a person from Liberia can still so easily get into non-infected countries, its not their god given right to be able to air travel wherever they want.
     
  3. KMRblue1027

    KMRblue1027 The Crown!

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    We're not Madagascar.
     
  4. Kaitzilla

    Kaitzilla Lord Croissant

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    For Ebola anyway, here is the answer:
    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/219492-white-house-no-ebola-travel-restrictions

    Basically, Ebola isn't a real threat for the USA.




    It's ebola's fault.
    The long incubation period and how it starts out like the flu, so you don't know you have a problem until you start bleeding out everywhere.

    Still, the guy should have maybe known he had ebola in the first place before going to visit relatives overseas.

    http://news.yahoo.com/traveler-liberia-first-ebola-patient-diagnosed-u-003007621--finance.html

    God bless him for helping the pregnant woman.
    Hopefully the 50/50 chance of living through this are in his favor.
     
  5. peter grimes

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    So if you're sitting next to someone and they sneeze at you, you're unlikely to become infected from inhaling it the airborne mucus?
     
  6. kramerfan86

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    Doctors are catching this thing despite taking full precautions, so I am a bit iffy on whether they have a true grip on its transmissibility. Even assuming they are correct, the fact it cant become an epidemic is no reason to risk american citizens lives. Even a small handful of people shouldnt die just because they insist on letting travel continue as normal. And if there isnt even a tiny chance of an epidemic why keep letting people come and go from those countries?
     
  7. Kaitzilla

    Kaitzilla Lord Croissant

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    Well, since they are hemorrhaging blood from everywhere at the same time, a sneeze will probably have blood in it so ----> infected if it hits you
    Same for a cough probably too if it sprays you.


    But breathing the same air should be ok.


    The virus won't spread during the non-sick incubation period thankfully.
     
  8. kramerfan86

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    Here's what annoys me, there is a very very small chance of dying from a terrorist attack, yet every time one of those happens cretins like Obama and such are all over this precaution and that precautions. I guess you cant use ebola as justification to bomb anyone so just do the bare minimum
     
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    @kait - it's your last line that was relevant to my question. Didn't know that.
     
  10. brennan

    brennan Argumentative Brit

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    It's just not that communicable. It's been around for months and there are only 5-6000 cases I believe. By comparison a cold would probably have gone round the globe by now.
     
  11. kramerfan86

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    Guy who brought it here apparently lied on his travel form about whether he had contact with any sick people, Liberia is going to prosecute him when he returns, good.

    Woman and her family he stayed with are now under enforced quarantine because they refused to comply with the voluntary quarantine.
     
  12. EgonSpengler

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    This is true.

    "No, Seriously, How Contagious Is Ebola?" by Michaeleen Doucleff, October 02, 2014

    I think the people who aren't getting their kids immunized are a much bigger public health problem for the US than Ebola is.
     
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    El_Machinae Colour vision since 2018 Retired Moderator

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    Well, my right wing acquaintances have now entered the second stage of fear. They're now afraid enough to limit the freedoms of other people to travel, but not afraid enough to donate their own money to orgs like MSF to help fund the fight at the front lines.
     
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    It's about probabilities. You could save far more lives (~90 American deaths per day) by banning car travel.
     
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    Not to derail the thread, but I wonder what their take is on the bombing of ISIS? The estimate is that we've spent just under 1 billion dollars bombing ISIS, which is roughly the same as what the WHO estimates would be required to contain this Ebola outbreak.
     
  16. kramerfan86

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    Its also about cost reward though. Banning car travel cripples the economy, what does banning people from Liberia cost?

    http://news.yahoo.com/prescription-avoiding-ebola-airport-screening-ibuprofen-064732757.html

    That IMO is a big potential problem this article somewhat addresses. As conditions degrade in the effected countries you could quite possibly get an influx of people with the means to do so into western countries for the specific purpose of getting top tier treatment if they believe they have been exposed. The current guy in the US directly lied on the questionnaire, he wont be the only one to do so.
     
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    Luckily, Obama has so destroyed American healthcare that most everyone knows it is better to stay in Liberia to get treatment.
     
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    There is no such thing as the freedom to travel. All travelers can be denied entrance at the whim of that country. Banning travelers from Liberia and Sierra will prevent a few other cases getting in, and cost us a pittance in lost trade.
     
  19. Loppan Torkel

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    Why not both? :dunno:

    These people wouldn't hesitate personally bringing Ebola to the US.
     
  20. Kyriakos

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    Are we nearing the plot in V where some politician magically comes up with the cure to a deadly virus threatening the population? :)

    Cause the rest of the diversion-chaos rising-sense of unsafety- dumbest political talk is already in V levels.
     

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