Election 2024 Part III: Out with the old!

[Birdjaguar]

A new discussion thread for the new race. Is black the new orange? You may freely change your vote in the poll as things move along.


Link to Part II

 

[Angst]

i still think trump will win, but by all measures, harris has a real chance.

 

[Harv]

I do not know right now. Therefore I did not vote. Sequence of events may have an effect.
July 13 event, I thought Trump won the election based on the photo op he took immediately after the shooting. His voter base is unified.
July 21, Biden is out. Harris is in.
July 22, Committee Hearing. If I quoted some things said in that hearing, mods will snip, snip my quotes and give me a CFC holiday. Maintain decorum.
July 23, Head of Secret Service resigned.

Gun measures - I have not heard much are you listening now? I believe Team D is waiting for the mourning period to expire.

Obviously, the issue comes down to about 3000 voters in 4 states. Pennsylvania is one of those states. Michigan is another. I think Pennsylvania will decide this election.
Added - July 13 event was a little over 100km from where I work, according to Google Maps.

 

[Broken_Erika]

Trump campaign files complaint over Harris access to funds raised when Biden was running​

Harris campaign spokesperson says 'baseless legal claims' will only serve to distract Trump campaign​

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump's campaign filed a complaint with the U.S. Federal Election Commission (FEC) on Tuesday, arguing that U.S. Vice-President Kamala Harris could not legally take over funds raised by U.S. President Joe Biden's re-election campaign.
Biden, the 81-year-old Democrat, was in a tight race with Trump, and endorsed Harris when he ended his re-election bid on Sunday. Harris quickly took control of Biden's campaign accounts and has since won pledges from a majority of the delegates who at next month's party convention will determine the nominee, according to her campaign.

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The fight over the accounts, which had roughly $95 million US in the bank at the end of June, is part of a multi-pronged effort by Republicans to stymie Harris' bid to lead the Democratic ticket.
The Trump campaign argued that Harris undertook a "brazen money grab," according to the filing by David Warrington, the campaign's general counsel.
In the filing, which was shared with Reuters, Warrington said Harris was in the process of committing what he described as the "the largest campaign finance violation in American history."

Campaign claim to money likely secure: watchdog group​

Saurav Ghosh, a lawyer at the Campaign Legal Center, a non-partisan watchdog group, has said that because Harris was already part of "Biden for President" as the vice-presidential candidate, her claim on the money should be secure.
In any case, election regulators are unlikely to resolve the issue before the Nov. 5 presidential election.
The FEC said they were unable to comment on unresolved enforcement matters.

• With key leaders now behind her, Harris kicks off 1st campaign rally since entering presidential race
• Kamala Harris likely to follow Biden's path on Canada-U.S. relationship, experts say
• U.S. Secret Service director steps down after disastrous hearing over Trump shooting

Harris' campaign has said it had raised $100 million US since Sunday, when Biden stepped back from the campaign and endorsed her — exceeding Biden's remaining tally in just a few days. Her campaign brushed off the FEC complaint.
"Republicans may be jealous that Democrats are energized to defeat Donald Trump and his MAGA allies, but baseless legal claims — like the ones they've made for years to try to suppress votes and steal elections — will only distract them while we sign up volunteers, talk to voters, and win this election," said Harris campaign spokesperson Charles Kretchmer Lutvak.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-fec-fundraising-complaint-harris-campaign-1.7273242

 

[Voidwalkin]

Need to see if Harris is up in the swing states in the latest polls. If people don't immediately go to her, and she's down more than 2, 2.5 points, I doubt she will be able to overcome the gap.

 

[Klaus Hergersheimer]

I would have said Joe Biden. Now I've no clue.

However I do think the (likely) nomination of Kamala Harris instead of Biden connotes a sense of instability that general voters may not want to stomach. Harris has not been given this (again, likely) position because of any genuine merit but simply because she is the VP, and admittedly only picked for VP because she is a woman of color (Biden's own words, if you'll recall).

The public has known Harris for 4 years now; her approval was never that much different than the president himself (that is, low).
When is this "real" Harris going to emerge?
And insofar as that, what does she offer?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I want a "too early to tell" option. Now it's a coinflip.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

What does she offer?

She's not Trump. That's all people needed in 2020. Maybe it's enough this time as well, maybe it's not.

 

[JollyRoger]

I think the one that spends less time doing their makeup will win.

 

[Gorbles]

Harris has not been given this (again, likely) position because of any genuine merit

He says, based on nothing but his personal view of Kamala's merits.

Anyhow my opinion is that it's going to be hard to call. A lot of stuff hasn't settled yet, if it ever will.

I don't like Harris personally, but that doesn't really matter. I don't like Biden. I very much don't like Trump. I think voters are stuck picking a "least bad", and I think democracy in the US is flawed at best, if not broken outright and in need of replacement.

But I think replacing Biden was the right move, and I think it gives the Democrats a better chance. Here's hoping they make a vaguely-sensible VP pick (unless I missed it already).

 

[GenMarshall]

And insofar as that, what does she offer?

So far, just Woke Californian & Portland politics.

 

[Gori the Grey]

I think the one that spends less time doing their makeup will win.

So Harris, then.

 

[Plains-Cow]

0700: I am woke.
2300: I am slept.

 

[Gori the Grey]

Anyone chosen as Vice President has "merit," and specifically whatever merit is needed to be president, since standing ready to do that is pretty much the sole job of the person in the position.

She was DA and senator for our most populous state. Any senator is one of our country's 100 most meritorious people.

 

[Voidwalkin]

She does at some point need to vary up the rhetoric.

Her current campaign focus is the morality. She needs to shift to the money if swing states are going to be captured.

Right now, it makes sense to play the hits to the bougie Dem liberals. They have the most influence in the party, and she's trying not to blunder away the nomination. If she doesn't talk cost of living, economy or inflation, the swing states will look to Trump.

 

[danjuno]

So far, just Woke Californian & Portland politics.

Is the woke is the room with us right now? She was literally a prosecutor for god's sake.

 

[Arakhor]

Harris has not been given this (again, likely) position because of any genuine merit but simply because she is the VP, and admittedly only picked for VP because she is a woman of color (Biden's own words, if you'll recall).

What merit did Trump have?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

What merit did Trump have?

I know this. He was like the best president evahr, and he knew the bestest words.
Also he has a great Healthcare plan, which he will reveal in 2 weeks.

 

[aelf]

Is the woke is the room with us right now? She was literally a prosecutor for god's sake.

 

[Harv]

I know this. He was like the best president evahr, and he knew the bestest words.
Also he has a great Healthcare plan, which he will reveal in 2 weeks.

I thought he was going to do this back in 2016 and I thought it was going to be called Trump Don't Care.