Electric cars are a joke.

Originally posted by VoodooAce


Hey! :mad:

Houston is worse than L.A. now.....in pollution and traffic, I believe.

We're only the 2nd worse now. :D

I can't go a day without getting an objection from Voodoo even if I'm not trying :D . Sorry, I've been to LA, never been to Houston. As for being second worst, was there a big parade or anything? ;)
 
The company that seems to be making the most progress towards a zero-emmision engine is Ballard Power. They have already shipped some Fuel Cell buses to Chicago and Vanacouver and I beleive they have stationary engines that you can buy right now.

Here is the Link to Ballard Power
 
What I am really surprised is that how could the US government NOT think about getting rid of the dependency of the mid east oil when they knows that they have so many enemies in that regions. That just doesn't make any sense to me.

I mean, it's just like playing a Civ3 game that has 2 continents, I don't care how the civ in the other continent doing -- fight if you want, or bomb each other to dust, just don't use nuclear weapon to pollute the whole world.
 
Originally posted by knowltok2


I can't go a day without getting an objection from Voodoo even if I'm not trying :D . Sorry, I've been to LA, never been to Houston. As for being second worst, was there a big parade or anything? ;)

Heck yeah!!

Was front page news, all over the radio....seriously, no bull.

All in all, a glorious day in L.A. :goodjob:
 
In the sense that alternative energy sources would reduce American dependance on corrupt, despotic regimes in the middle-east they're a huge benefit to national security. Really we would be very wise from both an environmental and political standpoint to get away from our addiction to oil. And I think even the oil-loving Republicans are beginning to clue up on this...

Plus we don't have to bother all those cute polar bears up in anwar :love:
 
What I am really surprised is that how could the US government NOT think about getting rid of the dependency of the mid east oil when they knows that they have so many enemies in that regions. That just doesn't make any sense to me.
I wonder if the Bush administration's close ties with the major American oil and coal companies has anything to do with this. Or maybe I'm just being one of those paranoid lunatics who believes that corruption in government can reach the top. Well, at least Cheney has some explaining to do.

- Maj
 
Anyone heard of a thing called the 'flue-gas desulphurization plant'. I have a power plant 20 miles away from my house, it runs on coal and creates less pollution than a SINGLE coal fire because it has a 'flue-gas desulphurization plant'.

Anyway, I think the Sahara desert should be filled up with solar panels and then we can all have free electricity!
 
Originally posted by Comrade Juhon
Anyway, I think the Sahara desert should be filled up with solar panels and then we can all have free electricity!
And destory the careful balance of the Sarah eco-system??? Have you no heart!?!?

And who brushes all the sand off after a sandstorm? Not to mention the yet unknown-effect of reflecting light back out to space and not letting as much heat hit the Earth.... not that I think solar power could be worse than what we use now.

Personally, I don't think there is a single source of power that won't have some damaging side effects; but I'm not willing to give up my computer, so we'll have to find the best one.
 
Originally posted by rmsharpe
Something just occured to me...why are electric cars considered "environmentally sound?" I'm pretty ignorant on this subject, but it just seems to me that:

1) Man buys electric car.

2) Man plugs electric car into electric outlet.

3) Electricity is sent by the electric company.

Pretty simple, right? But where does that electricity come from?

What if the power plant is burning coal? Doesn't that just make it just less visible from the consumer standpoint?

Electricity comes from other sources rather than just coal
burning plants.

There are also ways to make these power plants produce less
pollutants, using filters and decent waste removal.

My dad is a marine engineer and works in the nuclear/chemical
energy industry...and I agree with him that electric transpost
is useful in some instances...inner cities for instance.
 
The flue gas desulphurisation is required because coal contains a reasonable amount of sulphur, that when burnt, forms sulphur dioxide. This sulpur dioxide then reacts with oxygen in the atmosphere to form weak sulphuric acid - ie acid rain. Scrubbing this out is actually quite simple - basically just wash the flue gas with water. But of course, then you need to clean up the water...

Unfortunately, Sulphur is not the only pollutant produced by combustion of coal.
 
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