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Elimination Game Thread - Which Civs Need a Second Leader?

Discussion in 'Civ - Ideas & Suggestions' started by IgorS, Aug 3, 2017.

  1. IgorS

    IgorS Your ad could be here!

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    OK, so there is a thread about which civs need a second leader, but let's decide it in an elimination game.

    The rules are obvious:
    1) Every 24 hours, you add 1 point to one civ you think needs a second leader, and subtract 3 points from a civ you think could do without a second leader.
    2) Each civs starts with 20 points. First civ eliminated takes last place, and so forth, until we have our winner.
    3) Write a brief explanation to your decision (such as which leader you would like to see).
    4) Try to avoid commenting in the thread when not voting.

    For obvious reasons, Greece does not participate in this game.

    Rankings:
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    8. Russians (eliminated by Guandao)
    9. Arabs (eliminated by IgorS)
    10. Persians (eliminated by Guatenadian)
    11. Romans (eliminated by Kimiimaro)
    12. Japanese (eliminated by Guatenadian)
    13. Spanish (eliminated by Xandinho)
    14. Poles (eliminated by Xandinho)
    15. Aztecs (eliminated by Guandao)
    16. Americans (eliminated by Hammurabbit)
    17. Kongolese (eliminated by RFormica)
    18. Brazilians (eliminated by Guandao)
    19. Nubians (eliminated by Conorbebe)
    20. Norwegians (eliminated by Kimiimaro)
    21. Scythians (eliminated by Japper007)
    22. Australians (eliminated by Roman Citizen)
    23. Macedonians (eliminated by Morningcalm)
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2017 at 8:46 PM
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  2. IgorS

    IgorS Your ad could be here!

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    Australians 20
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    Brazilians 20
    Chinese 20
    Egyptians 20
    English 20
    French 20
    Germans 20
    Indians 20
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Macedonians 20
    Norwegians 20
    Nubians 20
    Persians 20
    Poles 20
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians 20
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20
     
  3. IgorS

    IgorS Your ad could be here!

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    Brazilians 20
    Chinese 20
    Egyptians 20 + 1 = 21 - Egypt needs a worthy leader
    English 20
    French 20
    Germans 20
    Indians 20
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Macedonians 20 - 3 = 17 - Alexander is enough
    Norwegians 20
    Nubians 20
    Persians 20
    Poles 20
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians 20
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20
     
  4. UkrNixon

    UkrNixon Chieftain

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    Americans 20
    Arabs 20
    Australians 20
    Aztecs 20
    Brazilians 20
    Chinese 20
    Egyptians 21
    English 20
    French 20+1=21 (I want to see Louis XIV aka Sun King)
    Germans 20
    Indians 20
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Macedonians 17-3=14 (Their entire reason of existing in Civ6 as separate from Greece is because they needed to fit Alexander somehow, and Greece already had 2 leaders)
    Norwegians 20
    Nubians 20
    Persians 20
    Poles 20
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians 20
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20
     
  5. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    Americans 20
    Arabs 20
    Australians 20
    Aztecs 20
    Brazilians 20
    Chinese 20
    Egyptians 21
    English 20
    French 21
    Germans 20
    Indians (20+1)=21 A second Indian leader that isn't Gandhi would be nice.
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Macedonians 14-3=11 A second leader for Macedon is not a priority at the moment
    Norwegians 20
    Nubians 20
    Persians 20
    Poles 20
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians 20
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20
     
  6. Manifold

    Manifold ModderProtectionAdvocate

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    Nice game:)

    Americans 20
    Arabs 20
    Australians 17 (20-3) exist since about 100 years. I guess it is nearly the same Western Civilization like my country. Time is to short for an own Civilization and especially a second leader!
    Aztecs 20
    Brazilians 20
    Chinese 20
    Egyptians 21
    English 20
    French 21
    Germans 20
    Indians 21
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Macedonians 12 (11+1) WAIT, second leader should be one of many interesting Diadochi. They ruled over 250 years over the ancient world from the Adriatic Sea to India from Kazakhstan to Sudan. They build world wonders and hellenized the world - us too. This list has many others which need to go first.
    Norwegians 20
    Nubians 20
    Persians 20
    Poles 20
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians 20
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20
     
  7. Morningcalm

    Morningcalm Chieftain

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    Americans 20
    Arabs 20
    Australians 17
    Aztecs 20
    Brazilians 20
    Chinese 20
    Egyptians 21
    English 20
    French 21
    Germans 20
    Indians 21 + 1 = 22 (Could use a military or cultural leader like Akbar, or Chandragupta Maurya, or any of a host of amazing Indian rulers.)
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Macedonians 12 - 3 = 9 (Meh. An offshoot of ancient Greece anyway as represented in this game, centered on Alexander; were they otherwise, I would have downvoted Australia here).
    Norwegians 20
    Nubians 20
    Persians 20
    Poles 20
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians 20
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20
     
  8. Denkt

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    Americans 20
    Arabs 20
    Australians 17
    Aztecs 20
    Brazilians 20
    Chinese 20 + 1 = 21 (The title of the longest continuous civilization should make it an obvious choice for a second leader)
    Egyptians 21
    English 20
    French 21
    Germans 20
    Indians 22
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Macedonians 9
    Norwegians 20 - 3 = 17 (The viking civ don't need a second leader as I don't see what a second leader would add to this civ.)
    Nubians 20
    Persians 20
    Poles 20
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians 20
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20
     
  9. Xandinho

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    Americans 20
    Arabs 20
    Australians 17 - 3 = 14 Australia does not need a second leader, at least until the other civs on the list get one.
    Aztecs 20
    Brazilians 20
    Chinese 21
    Egyptians 21
    English 20
    French 21
    Germans 20
    Indians 22 + 1 = 23 India is the civ that is most in need of a second leader at the moment. Having Ashoka in the game would be awesome.
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Macedonians 9
    Norwegians 17
    Nubians 20
    Persians 20
    Poles 20
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians 20
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20
     
  10. IgorS

    IgorS Your ad could be here!

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    Americans 20
    Arabs 20
    Australians 14
    Aztecs 20
    Brazilians 20
    Chinese 21
    Egyptians 21
    English 20 + 1 = We need a proper English leader, who was not British
    French 21
    Germans 20
    Indians 23
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Macedonians 9 - 3 = 6 - Making someone of the Diadochi represent Macedon would remove the element of it being a civilization
    Norwegians 17
    Nubians 20
    Persians 20
    Poles 20
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians 20
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20
     
  11. Kimiimaro

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    Americans 20
    Arabs 20
    Australians 14
    Aztecs 20
    Brazilians 20
    Chinese 21
    Egyptians 21
    English 21
    French 21
    Germans 20
    Indians 23+1=24 - India needs someone who was actually a leader of the country, like some Emperor.
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Macedonians 6-3=3 - No. I said it various times in some other elimination thread - I don't want to see another Greek leader until Byzantium makes a return. Period.
    Norwegians 17
    Nubians 20
    Persians 20
    Poles 20
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians 20
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20
     
  12. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    Brazilians 20
    Chinese 21
    Egyptians (21+1)=22 A male Pharaoh would be nice, at least someone who isn't a Ptolemy
    English 21
    French 21
    Germans 20
    Indians 24
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Macedonians 3
    Norwegians 17
    Nubians 20
    Persians 20
    Poles 20
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians (20-3)=17 I don't think we need a second leader for Scythia
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20
     
  13. Morningcalm

    Morningcalm Chieftain

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    Australians 14
    Aztecs 20
    Brazilians 20
    Chinese 21
    Egyptians 22
    English 21
    French 21
    Germans 20
    Indians 24 + 1 = 25 (We need someone to offset the staleness of Gandhi and more seriously represent India with one of its great rulers.)
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Macedonians 3 - 3 = ELIMINATED. (Since Macedonia is so Alexander centered and another Philip II would make no sense in Civ VI, these must be the first to go, even ahead of Australia.)
    Norwegians 17
    Nubians 20
    Persians 20
    Poles 20
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians 17
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20
     
  14. inthesomeday

    inthesomeday Immortan

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    Americans 20
    Arabs 20

    Australians 11 (14-3)
    I don't think anyone is really rooting for these guys to win, it wouldn't make any sense for the youngest Civ in the game with the least history to get a new leader.


    Aztecs 20
    Brazilians 20

    Chinese 22 (21+1)
    Given there are at least 15 Chinas, more than 1 Chinese leader seems prudent.


    Egyptians 22
    English 21
    French 21
    Germans 20
    Indians 25
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Norwegians 17
    Nubians 20
    Persians 20
    Poles 20
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians 17
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20
     
  15. Returning Lurker

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    Arabs 20
    Australians 11
    Aztecs 20
    Brazilians 20-3=17
    Chinese 22
    Egyptians 22
    English 21
    French 21
    Germans 20
    Indians 25
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Norwegians 17
    Nubians 20
    Persians 20
    Poles 20+1=21
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians 17
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20

    Jan Sobieski deserves some spotlight. WAAAAY more so than Jadwiga does.

    As for Brazil I'm dinging them for the same reason others are dinging Australia yet no one is dinging Brazil for it yet.
     
  16. Xandinho

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    Americans 20
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    Australians 11 - 3 = 8 Australia is the youngest country on the list, and is already well represented with John Curtin. It does not need a leader until the other civilizations on the list get one.
    Aztecs 20
    Brazilians 17
    Chinese 22
    Egyptians 22
    English 21
    French 21
    Germans 20
    Indians 25
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Norwegians 17
    Nubians 20
    Persians 20 + 1 = 21 I would like to see an Islamic persian leader.
    Poles 21
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians 17
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20
     
  17. Kimiimaro

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    Australians 8-3=5 - A second leader for the youngest Civ here? BOO!
    Aztecs 20
    Brazilians 17
    Chinese 22
    Egyptians 22
    English 21
    French 21+1=22 - Give me a leader that would make France at least an average Civ with his LUA. For example Napoleon with some nice war bonus.
    Germans 20
    Indians 25
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Norwegians 17
    Nubians 20
    Persians 21
    Poles 21
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians 17
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20
     
  18. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    Aztecs 20
    Brazilians 17
    Chinese 22
    Egyptians 22
    English 21
    French (22+1)=23 Another leader wouldn't hurt, like Louis XIV, Philippe Auguste, even Napoleon
    Germans 20
    Indians 25
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Norwegians 17
    Nubians 20
    Persians 21
    Poles 21
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians (17-3)=14 My least favorite Civ, I don't want it to get another leader. Most of the male choices aren't worthy anyways.
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20
     
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  19. IgorS

    IgorS Your ad could be here!

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    Brazilians 17
    Chinese 22
    Egyptians 22
    English 21
    French 23
    Germans 20 + 1 = 21 - Bismarck should come back.
    Indians 25
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Norwegians 17
    Nubians 20
    Persians 21
    Poles 21
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians 14 - 3 = 11 - I think they should not only not get a second leader, but lose their current one, and be removed from the game for a normal civ.
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20
     
  20. Vahnstad

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    Americans 20
    Arabs 20
    Australians 5 - 3 = 2 Get out
    Aztecs 20 + 1 = 21 Great civ with more leaders then montezuma
    Brazilians 17
    Chinese 22
    Egyptians 22
    English 21
    French 23
    Germans 21
    Indians 25
    Japanese 20
    Kongolese 20
    Norwegians 17
    Nubians 20
    Persians 21
    Poles 21
    Romans 20
    Russians 20
    Scythians 11
    Spanish 20
    Sumerians 20
     

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