Elon Musk: Force for anthropic advancement or self-serving con-artist?

I know I'm not allowed to call him a Nazi, but basically Elon Musk is a Boer who fled South Africa while the whites were still in charge and his entire family have various links to organisations that wave red flags with white circles and black crosses of various types.

And most of the tech-bro mafia has that kind of link.
Plus yeah he's a god damn nazi in the sense that all nazi supporters and accomplices are
 
However, they have never paid dividend to their shareholders and that is partly because the executives spend that money on huge bonuses for themselves instead. For that reason alone, I would never buy into the company.

Why would the shareholders stand for that? If they're not getting kickbacks, why even own the shares in the first place?
 
Why would the shareholders stand for that? If they're not getting kickbacks, why even own the shares in the first place?

Some investors are attracted to companies that offer quite volatile and sometimes very unpredictable share price highs and lows. Buy for $100 this month, sell for $150 next month. Tesla Motors fitted that characteristic through the 2010s, a bit similar to crypto.

So, they accept there's no dividend payouts (unless you're Elon or an executive) to the investors, believing they can profit of the volatility of the share prices instead, often in the short term.
 
The way I see it Elon Musk now requires a trade war with China, where his competitors are, for TESLA to prosper.

He is even in a position to fine-tune any EV tariffs so Tesla squeaks by and his weaker US competitors get wrecked.

Same with EV subsidies from federal government and emissions standards.

Just has to keep kissing butt.
 

Elon Musk's Brother Unloads Tesla Stock At A Key Juncture​

Chief Executive Elon Musk's brother, Kimbal Musk, who is a Tesla board member, sold 27 million worth of Tesla stock on Thursday, according to regulatory filings. That comes as TSLA stock has retreated in recent days to a critical juncture.

Kimbal Musk sold 75,000 TSLA shares for an estimated $27.59 million on Feb. 6, according to SEC filings late on Thursday. This is the first time Kimbal Musk has sold in three months.


https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-stock

Does he know something that the markets don't know yet? :shifty:
Well, he might be preparing to buy back in for less after his brother's shenanigans make the share price tumble. Apparently Trump would be about to slash a five-milliard-dollar subsidy for electric vehicles, but Musk's been YOLOing it for a long time.
Plus yeah he's a god damn nazi in the sense that all nazi supporters and accomplices are
Don't answer the door if any strangers come a-knockin'.
 
Elon Musk is trying to buy OpenAI for 100,000,000,000 dollars. This will be good. And by good I mean bad.
 
Maybe he is just very aware of Tesla soon losing most of its worth. This can happen even instantly - eg if Trump decides to cancel credits for not using petrol etc in cars, which would prevent Tesla from selling its own credits to other (non-electric) companies.
Tesla is so massively overvalued compared to its assets and production capabilities, that it will go down - only question is when.
 
It's almost as if people our age were becoming good at recognising bubbles.
 
Musk's Tesla sportscar in orbit around the sun with its mannequin driver. It has been in orbit since Feb. 2018

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It's almost as if people our age were becoming good at recognising bubbles.

Or maybe it is just that bitcoin and related practices of only-speculation belong to one generation younger and onwards?
Only-speculation=>next to no care about actual value of the company as you are only trying to make an instant gain and sell.
Naturally there have been gamblers since forever, but perhaps the phenomenon in trading became a lot more common with bitcoin etc, bleeding into buying stock like Tesla etc.
 
I suppose that the ability to just plug in and buy anything online helps fuel the craze?
 
Every generation for the past few hundred or so years had its get rich quick schemes. Technology has just changed the nature of what "quick" means.
 
Elon Musk is trying to buy OpenAI for 100,000,000,000 dollars. This will be good. And by good I mean bad.
ok so this sounded like another "elon buys something for way over price and plummets his wallet" to me, but looking up openai, apparently valued at 80 billion, so it's not an unreasonable markup

still it will be bad yea
 
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