Elon Musk: Force for anthropic advancement or self-serving con-artist?
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Ordnael
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Well I do hope we get to have an Enterprise inspired spaceship some time in the future...although we are most likely going to go trough with Kubrick's designs first.
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Blade Runner 2049 maker sues Musk over robotaxi images
The maker of the film Blade Runner 2049 has sued Tesla, Elon Musk and Warner Bros Discovery, alleging they used imagery from the movie without permission.Production firm Alcon Entertainment claims it had specifically denied a request from Warner Bros to use material from the film at the launch event for Tesla's long-awaited robotaxi.
Alcon alleges that despite its refusal Tesla and the other organisers of the event on 10 October used artificial intelligence (AI) to create promotional imagery based on the film.
Tesla and Warner Bros did not immediately reply to requests for comment from BBC News.
The “financial magnitude of the misappropriation here was substantial," the lawsuit said.
"Any prudent brand considering any Tesla partnership has to take Musk’s massively amplified, highly politicised, capricious and arbitrary behaviour, which sometimes veers into hate speech, into account," it added.
Alcon also accused the event organisers of "false endorsement" by suggesting a connection between the production company and Tesla.
Warner Bros, which hosted the robotaxi launch event at one of its movie studios, was also the distributor of Blade Runner 2049 when it was released in 2017.
The highly-anticipated sequel to the 1982 cyberpunk classic Blade Runner, starred Ryan Gosling, Harrison Ford, Ana de Armas and Jared Leto, and won two Academy Awards.
Elon Musk has referred to the original film several times in the past, hinting at one point that it was a source of inspiration for Tesla's Cybertruck.
Alcon is currently producing a spinoff television series Blade Runner 2099.
Separately, the director of 2004 sci-fi film I, Robot accused Mr Musk of copying his designs for humanoid machines and self-driving vehicles.
The title of Tesla robotaxi event - We, Robot - which played on the the title of an Isaac Asimov short story collection, caught the eye of Alex Proyas.
"Hey Elon, can I have my designs back please," Mr Proyas said in a post on X which has been viewed more than eight million times.
But the claim was met with scepticism online, with some suggesting his own film is derivative.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce3z37dpvl9o
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Blade Runner 2049 producers sue Elon Musk, Tesla, Warner Bros. Discovery over robotaxi images
Lawsuit accuses Musk, Tesla of using film sequences to generate promotional material
Elon Musk has responded to a lawsuit launched against him by a production company for Blade Runner 2049 over allegations of copyright infringement."That movie sucked," Musk, CEO of Tesla and SpaceX, posted on the X, the social-media platform formerly known as Twitter, Tuesday, responding to news of the lawsuit.
Alcon Entertainment is suing Tesla and CEO Elon Musk, as well as Warner Bros. Discovery, alleging they used scenes from the film without permission to generate promotional materials for the launch of Tesla's self-driving robotaxi.
In a lawsuit filed Monday in U.S. federal court in California, Alcon Entertaintment accused Musk and Tesla of feeding sequences from the film into an image generator driven by artificial intelligence to create materials used during Musk's robotaxi unveiling on Oct. 10.
The lawsuit accuses Musk, Tesla and Warner Bros. Discovery of direct copyright infringement, vicarious copyright infringement, contributory copyright infringement and false endorsement.
During his presentation, Musk directly referenced Blade Runner 2049.
"You know, I love Blade Runner, but I don't know if we want that future," he said.
"It was hardly coincidental that the only specific Hollywood film which Musk actually discussed to pitch his new, fully autonomous, AI-driven cybercab was BR2049 — a film which just happens to feature a strikingly designed, artificially intelligent, fully autonomous car throughout the story," reads the lawsuit.
Tesla partnered with Warner Bros. for the unveiling, which was done from a studio lot, according to the lawsuit. At the presentation, Musk arrived in a cybercab before showing an image of a male figure wearing a trench coat as he surveys the abandoned ruins of a city bathed in a misty, orange light. In the upper left corner, the words "Not This" appear superimposed on part of the sky.
"Musk tried awkwardly to explain why he was showing the audience a picture of BR2049 when he was supposed to be talking about his new product. He really had no credible reason," the lawsuit says.
The presentation "was clearly intended to read visually either as an actual still image from BR2049's iconic sequence of K [Ryan Gosling's character] exploring the ruined Las Vegas or as a minimally stylized copy of one," the lawsuit says.
Tesla and Warner Bros. Discovery did not reply to requests for comments from CBC News at the time of publication.
Alcon Entertainment said it had specifically denied a request from Warner Bros. Discovery to use material from the film at the launch event.
The production company didn't want to be associated with Tesla or Musk because of what it called "Musk's massively amplified, highly politicized, capricious and arbitrary behaviour, which sometimes veers into hate speech," the lawsuit says.
"The financial magnitude of the misappropriation here was substantial," the lawsuit says.
"Alcon has spent decades and hundreds of millions of dollars building the BR2049 brand into the famous mark that it now is. Prior actual BR2049 contracts linking automotive brands to the picture have had dollar price tags in the eight figures."
The company, which is in talks with other automotive brands for partnerships on a Blade Runner 2099 television series currently in production, claims in the lawsuit that the defendants' conduct is "likely to cause confusion among Alcon's potential brand partner customers."
Alcon Entertainment is seeking unspecified damages, as well as a court order barring Tesla from further distributing the disputed promotional materials.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainme...on-musk-tesla-warner-bros-discovery-1.7359260
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Cellular Starlink Powered 'Hundreds of Thousands' of Texts After Hurricanes
https://www.pcmag.com/news/cellular-starlink-powered-hundreds-of-thousands-of-texts-after-hurricanes
Another one for force for anthropic advancement.
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Can you use a text message as a flotation device?
How does this balance out against being a key funder and enabler of the long-term environmental depredation that has made such natural disasters ever more damaging and frequent?
Because to me this sounds like a payoff.
Ordnael
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Made me laugh.
Thank you
Dude...Wut!?
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Now, I seriously need some context here, thank you.
Ordnael
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I just thought the poll would be a nice touch, but fine by me. I just think self-serving con-artist doesn't quite apply to all of his faultsI can't add a pollYou could ask @lymond, but afaik the point of the new thread was largely to be different from the previous one, including lack of a poll.
Personally I am very ok with no poll.
Well, you see, our ever-worsening natural disasters are a consequence of something called climate change.
This could largely have been avoided by our political class, the decision-makers of our world, not deciding to actually take the wrongest option possible at every turn, out of short-sighted greed and a not-inconsiderable degree of sadism.
Elon Musk has, for a long time, been a large industrialist and horrendous supporter of this environmentally disastrous caste of which he is a member himself. As such, his gaining from such disasters is a payoff. He invests a little, then gets competitors' services destroyed and in he steps to profit from the desperate amid the wreckage.
This doesn't include his basically taking over Trump's 2024 presidential campaign, but also being an ally of Vladimir Putin who, at the appropriate times, denied Ukraine telecommunications it needed to fight Russia. Which turns out to follow a series of personal conversations between Musk and Putin. Putin's war is, too, economically and environmentally devastating, including e.g. the destruction of a dam that led to disastrous flooding in Ukraine, as well as the heightened risk of nuclear disaster from occupied nuclear plants.
Ordnael
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The man shaked legacy automakers into making EVs and is making Space Exploration much more environmentally sustainable!
Filling up lower Earth orbit with Starlink satellites that get in the way of actual astronomy doesn't seem environmentally anything.
Flat-out, no. The man is widely credited as having been a detriment to his own company and whenever he makes a decision it's the wrong one, such as with his crashing robot cars that kill people. His entire company dedicated huge resources to stopping him from ruining everything at every turn. Have you ever thought of actually finding out what you're talking about?
Elon Musk was an illegal immigrant!
Not that I hold that against him, but it does seem a little hypocritical considering what he is saying now.
Elon Musk briefly worked illegally in the US after abandoning a graduate studies program in California, according to a Washington Post report that contrasted the episode with the South African multibillionaire’s anti-immigration views.
The boss of Tesla and SpaceX, who has in recent weeks supported Donald Trump’s campaign for a second presidency while promoting the Republican White House nominee’s opposition to “open borders” on his X social media site, has previously maintained that his transition from student to entrepreneur was a “legal grey area”.
But the Washington Post reported Saturday that the world’s wealthiest individual was almost certainly working in the US without correct authorization for a period in 1995 after he dropped out of Stanford University to work on his debut company, Zip2, which sold for about $300m four years later.
Legal experts said foreign students cannot drop out of school to build a company even if they are not getting paid. The Post also noted that – prior to the September 11 terrorist attacks against the US in 2001 – regulation for student visas was more lax.
Not that I hold that against him, but it does seem a little hypocritical considering what he is saying now.
Elon Musk briefly worked illegally in the US after abandoning a graduate studies program in California, according to a Washington Post report that contrasted the episode with the South African multibillionaire’s anti-immigration views.
The boss of Tesla and SpaceX, who has in recent weeks supported Donald Trump’s campaign for a second presidency while promoting the Republican White House nominee’s opposition to “open borders” on his X social media site, has previously maintained that his transition from student to entrepreneur was a “legal grey area”.
But the Washington Post reported Saturday that the world’s wealthiest individual was almost certainly working in the US without correct authorization for a period in 1995 after he dropped out of Stanford University to work on his debut company, Zip2, which sold for about $300m four years later.
Legal experts said foreign students cannot drop out of school to build a company even if they are not getting paid. The Post also noted that – prior to the September 11 terrorist attacks against the US in 2001 – regulation for student visas was more lax.
Ordnael
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Before Tesla there was dieselgate, before Spacex reusing rockets was a pipe dream.
Do I think FSD is bullfeathers? It's a lab experiment and he is using real people for that and it's wrong. Taking lidar out of the autonomous driving concept is very wrong!
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