Emancipation has made women miserable.

[Terxpahseyton]

Our research is simply about documenting a fact: since the 1970’s, women’s self-reported happiness has fallen, relative to that of men.

http://www.businessinsider.com/38-t...appiness-2012-7#women-are-getting-unhappier-2

Was the emancipation of women an act dominated by ideology (total gender equality [except child birth]) for the sake of practical gain?

Should we strip women of voting right because they are too stressful?

Is there a comfort of the traditional role of women which meant a precious quality damaged by the ongoing emancipation? Note that in the 70s women could vote, work, didn't belong their husband and overall where already equal when it came to rights. What happened in the 70s was a push beyond the legal side. It was a push against the social dimension.

Does a notion of total equality possibly blind us? Is it a sensible measure in a world which knows no total equality to begin with?

Should there be unisex bras?

 

[BvBPL]

No, no, yes to some degree, no, yes, no.

 

[classical_hero]

The fact of the matter is that men and women are different. Getting women to try and do the work of a man and not doing things that are more womanly is a contributor to this. Women should allow their differences to shine so they don't have the same pressure put on them. The fact of the matter is that the family where the man is the head of the household, the family is much happier under those situations.

 

[JollyRoger]

Maybe women gaining power has made men happier, so we should take the vote away from us to make us even happier.

 

[Tarquelne]

Maybe we should sedate women. Or just lower their expectations again.

And don't forget about the education over heating their brains.

Men and women are different. Is it really so hard to believe that women are people who *like* being powerless and constrained?

 

[Save_Ferris]

Well, there are more single mothers.

 

[Ailedhoo]

Equality must be noted. One should not dictate power by the gender of the figure. Oppression is not the path of happyness.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Cosmo meets sociology head-on? I wonder which will win, or if they will somehow morph.

For those who care, here is the actual study:

http://bpp.wharton.upenn.edu/jwolfers/Papers/WomensHappiness.pdf

 

[Ajidica]

If we just stop letting women get educated, all the problems would be solved!

Link to video.

 

[JohnRM]

Women were like a lot of common people are in relation to government, today. They have no idea what is going on. They live in blissful ignorance. Women didn't have the burden of the work place. They didn't have to make big decisions. If they even had deal with half the crap that our leaders (or fathers) did, they'd 'buckle under the goddamn pressure.' Well, woman just had to know and men said, "Okaaaaay!" Now, they can't ever really get that blissful ignorance back, because families are now used to living on two incomes. Welcome to our world!

(Disclaimer: Poster comments below refer strictly to his experiences in his current place of employment. Poster does not claim to speak to the qualities or behaviors of ALL women, everywhere.)

We actually had this woman take a hardness tester job at the mill, and she pushed a temp (a good worker) out of the position. She's going to get there and the first time she sees 9" bar coming down the bay she is going to cry about it and say she can't lift those heavy samples. You can't have it both ways. Don't come crying to a man to have him do your job for you. Either you're equal or you're not.

Of course, then you do have your women who can stand tall to the challenge. They're the cream of the crop, especially if they're good looking and straight. They're downright sexy, then. They grabbed the equality issue by the balls and made it happen. So, good on them! The unfortunate reality, though, is that they aren't most women. Most women want equal opportunity pay, but don't want to put forth equal opportunity effort.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Maybe women gaining power has made men happier, so we should take the vote away from us to make us even happier.

Best comment I've seen all week, on any site!

 

[Turquoiside]

Is it really so hard to believe that women are people who *like* being powerless and constrained?

Coming from a man, yes.

 

[Zelig]

Our research is simply about documenting a fact: since the 1970’s, women’s self-reported happiness has fallen, relative to that of men.

So their happiness could have increased in an absolute sense, as long an men's happiness increased more.

 

[LightSpectra]

Unhappiness and depression increase the more a society's economy advances. Check out Scandinavia to see the same phenomenon; compare to impoverished third world countries (such as in west Africa or southeast Asia) to see the opposite. There's probably many reasons for this, including stress, loss of spirituality in favor of secular relativism (a trend typically associated with urbanization), more people having extramarital sex (sociologically demonstrated to increase the chances of failed relationships), and more.

I doubt this trend is confined to women.

 

[Earthling]

Self-reported anythings are always very fickle in statistics. People's perceptions can change independently of the actual truth of what they are reporting. It's also very easy to get in a position where someone thinks they can explain whatever the data turns out to be with post hoc justifications.

There are of course still much better reasons to disregard conclusions like what is suggested here. Most of that is due to the terrible incompleteness and poor methodology of much historical sociological data. For one, white, middle class people are pretty much going to be the only ones studied on any such broad survey in the US from the 1970s era. Society (and the respondents to surveys) being more diverse now can have profound effects that drown out any correlation with time. The authors in this source actually outright state they simply lack data on minorities. It's not nearly as surprising or worth debating in the manner above to have the conclusion that a subgroup of better-off people in the past have higher scores on some metric than society as a whole now.

 

[bathsheba666]

A collection of men, a collection of complete balls

 

[ParkCungHee]

Maybe women gaining power has made men happier, so we should take the vote away from us to make us even happier.

In my experience, powerful women taking away my rights makes me happy, so maybe there's something to this.

 

[Flying Pig]

Has anyone screamed 'correlation does not imply causation' at their monitor yet?

 

[Cutlass]

It's implied

 

[Lord Gay]

If we just stop letting women get educated, all the problems would be solved!

Seeing that vid again reminded of the fake Good Wife's Guide:

http://j-walk.com/other/goodwife/index.htm