Well, technically we don't know Kaz yet. I was trying to suggest much the same thing as Peter was. Instead of having Cav or Kaz trade with SAN/SAT, funnel those trades through us. But we have to convince Cav & Kaz that it is good for them to have us act as the middlemen. The justification is that we don't think SAN/SAT know there are 3 teams in our alliance. They have shown they know Cav & Kaz are allies and they are worried about it. The obvious benefit to us is that we end up friendly with everyone, so as long as we don't end up in a 4v1, we will still have the ability to choose which side of a 3v2 we want.