End of a trade agreement

[ChtiGariX]

Hello,
it's my first topic here and english isn't my native language so I apologize if I'm doing something wrong

In my current game I've been trading stuff with another civ. The 20 turns are now over but the other civ didn't ask to terminate this agreement, so the trade is going on every turn.

Same goes for RoP agreement with other civs.

I've not found the way to terminate those trades after 20 turns. Do you know one ?

Thanks in advance !

 

[gmaharriet]

I've not found the way to terminate those trades after 20 turns. Do you know one ?

Yes, go to the Diplomacy screen (F4), click on the leader you have a deal with, and click on Propose a Deal. Underneath the trading table, you should see a row that has new and active. Click on active and remove the ROP or whatever else you want to end. Then tell the leader "goodbye" and exit Diplomacy. This can be done for as many leaders as you want to end deals with.

Any deal which does not have a number after it, such as (7), has expired and there will be no penalty for ending it.

 

[ChtiGariX]

Thank you I will try it !
(never seen this row before )

Do I also need to do it with peace treaties to avoid reputation penalty ? Or is it the same as if I declare war (having all my units outside the other civ's territory of course)

 

[gmaharriet]

Do I also need to do it with peace treaties to avoid reputation penalty ? Or is it the same as if I declare war (having all my units outside the other civ's territory of course)

No, I don't think so. If it has no number behind it, you can just declare. If it has a number behind it, it has not expired and your reputation is trashed anyway.

 

[NickyH]

I think that there's also an option in the preferences, called something like "Always renegotiate deals." I believe it will give you the question if you'd like to keep or end the deal after 20 turns.

 

[pol1]

yes there is such option and AI will ask You during the interturn to renew deal on previous (I think only if there are just gpt and lux involved) conditions

 

[gmaharriet]

I think that there's also an option in the preferences, called something like "Always renegotiate deals." I believe it will give you the question if you'd like to keep or end the deal after 20 turns.

I don't use that option. Let's say you want to declare on a civ who is currently supplying you with lux 2 turns AFTER the deal would have expired. If they're happy with the deal, they'll just continue it and you get the lux for the 2 more turns until you cancel it and declare. "Always renegotiate" often limits your options because it will continue for another 20 before you can can cancel it without a broken rep. This situation is even more likely with an ROP...the AI hardly ever cancels those and you can choose how long you want it.

 

[pol1]

good point!
i think, i'll switch off that also.
no rep hits.

 

[Red Horse]

I prefer to have the "renegotiate deal" switched on.

I find that with it off the trade would keep going (usually because I forget to reassess my current trades ) which was probably more of a benefit to the AI than to me. If the gpt is more than the AI can pay, they would cancel the trade anyway. Many times I find the AI is willing to pay more gpt for the same goods when we renegotiate.