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Enhanced Naval Warfare for Vox Populi

Discussion in 'Mods Repository' started by Asterix Rage, Nov 22, 2017.

  1. TaylorItaly

    TaylorItaly Warlord

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    Thanks , now i can get my " Wolfsrudel" .
     
  2. gwennog

    gwennog Warlord

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    Very great job Asterix, for me this mod is inseparable from VP. We should campaign for it to be included with your mod EAW4VP in VP :thumbsup:.
    Thank a lot.
     
  3. Asterix Rage

    Asterix Rage Warlord

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    A nice 'first final version' of VP is the priority now. IMO.
    When a VP 'gold' will be there, VPmodmods will be easier and better.
     
  4. Jiggly

    Jiggly Warlord

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    Where is the Bonus vs Submarine promotion? I started a game in atomic era to check it out and built a destroyer and I actually dont see that promotion on the list of promotions

    edit: the civopedia says its after navigator 1 so am I to assume it will pop up as an option once I have navigator 1 even if it doesnt show in the promotion tool tree?
     
  5. azum4roll

    azum4roll Emperor

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    I notice the bugfix for Anti-Sub promotion strength isn't in the changelogs. If it's intended, can you modify the description to say +66% attack, +33% defense for (33) and +150% attack, +75% defense for (75)?
     
  6. Asterix Rage

    Asterix Rage Warlord

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    It doesn't appear on the of promotions tree but is available if Plastics is discovered and Navigator I already there.
     
  7. Asterix Rage

    Asterix Rage Warlord

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    I assume you are speaking about the fix I took from you:
    Code:
    UPDATE UnitPromotions_UnitClasses
    SET Attack = '33', Defense = '33', Modifier = '0'
    WHERE PromotionType = 'PROMOTION_ANTI_SUBMARINE_I' AND EXISTS (SELECT * FROM COMMUNITY WHERE Type='COMMUNITY_CORE_BALANCE_UNITS' AND Value= 1 );
    
    UPDATE UnitPromotions_UnitClasses
    SET Attack = '75', Defense = '75', Modifier = '0'
    WHERE PromotionType = 'PROMOTION_ANTI_SUBMARINE_II' AND EXISTS (SELECT * FROM COMMUNITY WHERE Type='COMMUNITY_CORE_BALANCE_UNITS' AND Value= 1 );
    
    That should be :
    "+33% attack, +33% defense for (33) and +75% attack, +75% defense for (75)"
    Doesn't it?
     
  8. azum4roll

    azum4roll Emperor

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    If this is applied, yes.
     
  9. Asterix Rage

    Asterix Rage Warlord

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    !
    I just checked all Naval Units entries. I don't notice any civilopedia page inaccessible. All new units' civilopedia pages can be entered by right click on Unit Icons or text/search.
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  10. Asterix Rage

    Asterix Rage Warlord

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    For VP (9-8)
    Code:
    Advanced Destroyer:
    Promotion "Can See Submarines" replaced by "Navigator I"
    ____________________________________________
    
    Important change not mentioned in 1.6.14:
    
    -Bonus vs Submarines (33)
         Attack +33% and Defense +33%
         (was Attack +66% and Defense +33%)
    -Bonus vs Submarines (75)
         Attack +75% and Defense +75%
         (was Attack +150% and Defense +33%)

    I don't know about you, but me, I'm very satisfied with the new Naval Units distribution through the tech tree. More linear and smooth.
    I'm also very pleased with the new statue of "Can See Submarines" Promotion. Subs are now much more interesting. You can't see them easily.
    The Advanced Destroyer in this version remains "Advanced" but does not reveal Subs automatically.

    Some changes in 1.6.14 are greatly inspired by azum4roll who becomes a :king:GREAT_CONTRIBUTOR:king: of ENW.
     

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  11. adan_eslavo

    adan_eslavo Archmage of all Pixels Supporter

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    Tell me please, are those promotion changes adaptation to latest VP beta, or just your own balance update? I cannot find any VP-9-8 changelog to check, if there were any or more changes of promotions.
     
  12. Asterix Rage

    Asterix Rage Warlord

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    Own balance.

    All is about Subs. ENW brings a first subs @Plastics, early than VP. So, the all Subs line is redesigned a bit.
     
  13. azum4roll

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    I noticed Wolfpack III already gives 40% withdraw from melee (AIs love to pick that). Do subs really need a base chance to withdraw?
     
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  14. usadefcon1

    usadefcon1 Warlord

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    Modern Destroyer is going obsolete at the wrong tech I believe.

    It obsoletes at Advanced Ballistics when it should obsolete at Lasers.
     
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2020
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  15. Asterix Rage

    Asterix Rage Warlord

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    You are right.
    Thx for the report.
     
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  16. Asterix Rage

    Asterix Rage Warlord

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    :think:

    - I'd like to see submarine generations getting harder to sink when it becomes easier to see them...
    - 40% withdraw at L3 Promo Wolfpack III is huge...

    I'll try something to slow Withdraw Chance gain.
     
  17. Asterix Rage

    Asterix Rage Warlord

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    For VP (10-7-2) and (12-1-3)

    Code:
    ENW 1.6.16
    
    Fix:
    - Modern Destroyer obsoletes at Lasers (was wrongly at Advanced Ballistics)
    
    Unit Changes:
    - Attack Submarines get Dive I Promotion.
    - Nuclear Submarines get Dive II Promotion.
    
    Promotion Changes:
    - Dive I: +10% Defense Vs Ranged attacks and 10% Withdraw change (Lost with Upgrade)
    - Dive II: +20% Defense Vs Ranged attacks and 20% Withdraw change.
    - Wolfpack III: +30% Ranged Combat Strength when attacking. 20% chance to withdraw from Melee combat (was 40% chance to withdraw)
    Submarine Unit + Wolfpack III: No defence Vs Range attacks and 20% Withdraw chance.
    Attack Submarine Unit + Wolfpack III: 10% defence Vs Range attacks and 30% Withdraw chance.
    Nuclear Submarine Unit + Wolfpack III: 20% defence Vs Range attacks and 40% Withdraw chance.
     

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  18. Asterix Rage

    Asterix Rage Warlord

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    2 games with .16 so far. I'm quite happy with the integration and the balance of the mod. All the last changes about sub make the role of submarines very exciting.
     
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  19. General_Drax

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    @Asterix Rage : in my playthrough with last version it seems the destroyer line require coal. I'll double check again but maybe slipped back ?

    Edit: Ignore this: i'am an idiot. Downloaded the 1.6.0 version from front page and NOT your 1.6.16.

    Meh ...
     
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  20. Jiggly

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    compatible with 12-1 by chance?
     

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