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Epic Games Store - Discussion

Discussion in 'All Other Games' started by sherbz, Apr 19, 2019.

  1. sherbz

    sherbz Chieftain

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    So whats people opinions about Epic and its new store.

    My take: I feel somewhat ambivalent about it. Theres two aspects to it really. On the one hand, i dislike their tactics of essentially buying out exclusivity deals and forcing players to use their store if they want to play a particular game. But on the flip side, I also recognise that a monopoly in the form of steam is not exactly pro consumer either - even though Steam has not especially abused its dominant position in the market over the past 20 years. So I suppose i am a bit on the fence. I do not think Steam should get a free pass just because it was there first. But equally all my stuff is on Steam - currently 187 games and counting. And being forced to use another platform is not what i would call a pro consumer tactic either. I am guessing they view it a more viable and in the long run cheaper way to muscle in on steam territory. As the alternative is to penetrate the market and just sell everything steam does but cheaper.

    Ultimately, Steam has had a Monopoly for many many years. And what it did to first establish that Monopoly was to make Steam installation a requirement for Half Life 2 - which back in the day caused a great deal of outrage - now long since forgotten. So Valve are not exactly the good guys here. I suppose the best that can be said of them is that Steam has been a pretty good platform over the years and ultimately is responsible for nearly all PC sales in gaming are now done digitally - whereas consoles are still some way behind the PC market.

    The one alternative i suppose to all this is GOG. But i feel GOG is a more niche market - being that it specialises in older games and remastering them/making them work on modern systems.

    Im asking the question as i just downloaded Epic store to see what it actually looked like - and i will need to get it anyway as I am a Phoenix Point backer. Which is probably going to be my first purchase, although i am rather tempted by World War Z as well.
     
  2. civvver

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    I'm ambivalent. If they release a game I really want I'll get it. I have origin for ME3 and Dragon age inqusition, I got the ubisoft store for... well I don't even remember what cus I never use it, I think it was a freebie assasin's creed giveaway and I got one of the newer heroes games which I never play. I've noticed epic keeps giving away games for free each month to lure people over there. I also have twitch prime's platform cus they give away free stuff. Honestly don't really care, as long as the store/backend launcher is unobtrusive and I can turn it off easily enough. I leave steam running cus I use it the most. Twitch and origin are only up when I fire up a game. Prices are all the same across them for the most part.
     
  3. TheMeInTeam

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    I don't blame them for wanting to get in on the market, but their methodology leaves a lot to be desired. What was said in their interview about it was pretty anti-consumer; not a good way to attract customers. Especially considering they've not put any serious effort toward making the platform as convenient to use as Steam for end users.

    The whole grabbing user Steam data fiasco doesn't help either.

    GoG's model should be the dominant one by far, considering you can legit download + play copies without further access to GoG. Bit more relevant since others can pull access to games w/o recourse given recent climate of fake "ToS violations" that are never specified going around lately in facebook/youtube/paypal/etc. What recourse does someone have for a false ToS claim removing access to games? At least with GoG you can actually have a copy of the stuff you bought.
     
  4. sherbz

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    Yeah - i got World of Goo a few days ago for free. GOG also do free stuff occasionally. I got SOMA for free and a few other bits and pieces.

    GOG's model is a good one. But you cant get everything on there. Its more specialised into older titles. I use it when i can. Does anyone know what their revenue split is with developers? It would be quite easy i think for GOG to add being an Indie friendly platform onto its resume.
     
  5. Quintillus

    Quintillus Archiving Civ3 Content Supporter

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    The 88:12 revenue split, versus 70:30 on Steam (and AFAIK similar on GOG?) is interesting, and an argument in favor of the Epic store. In theory that should make game development more profitable, which could be especially important for indies who might otherwise not make enough for it to be sustainable.

    That said, I haven't used it enough to have a preference yet. I kinda of miss the reviews, since as much as Steam can be subject to voting based on things other than the game (e.g. the pricing, changes in a patch, etc.), the detailed Steam reviews can be really helpful. For now, I have one game on Epic (an exclusive that some friends play), most things on Steam, and a slight preference for GOG and its ability to download the installer DRM-free.
     
  6. sherbz

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    Their sale is now on. Seems as though they made a few bloopers:

    - They discounted pre order only games for a time (Borderlands 3, Phoenix Point, Vampire the masquerade etc)
    - Some developers have, as a consequence, temporarily removed their games from the store
    - Some have even increased the price.

    Its a pretty good sale though. There are some freebies, some big discounts, and some general and generic discounting - thats one thing they got right. I always used to hate it when Steam had a flash sale on a game which you had already purchased in a "sale" and you then missed out on a larger discount. Thankfully they got rid of that awful practice. And Epic have not replicated it.
     

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