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Epic trailer from 1864 war drama

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by storealex, May 10, 2014.

  1. storealex

    storealex In service of peace

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    Upcoming TV series about the 1864 war between Denmark on one side, and Germany and Austria on the other. Sold to BBC, the Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden, Norway, Iceland and others.

    I think this looks awesome! But what do you guys think?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK4D7C49vjI

    A few pics:


     
  2. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    Looks pretty cool. And welcome back.
     
  3. Kyriakos

    Kyriakos Alien spiral maker

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    I had seen the trailer sometime ago. It looks very good.

    It also seems that Monrad will be presented as being some sort of degenerate and pretty much take all the blame for the disaster (just going by a certain pic of his with his wife, which is somewhat BDSM-themed..).

    Surprised Denmark did not sell the series to Germany too. Maybe the gleeful mad-smile by Bismark in the trailer as he announced there will be a war has something to do with that :mischief:
     
  4. Phrossack

    Phrossack Armored Fish and Armored Men

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    Looks good. Can't say it was really much of a war, though. Poor Danes.
     
  5. Kyriakos

    Kyriakos Alien spiral maker

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    Imo the best part of the trailer is when one of the protagonists goes 'berserk' looking like a Huscarle. I suppose it is very well tied to the rest of the series, given that afaik the reason Dannevirke (a high earthen wall, constructed by the vikings) was chosen as the original line of defense, was political, alluding to the viking surrounding mythos and so on.

    The actual war scenes likely won't be many, going by what happened, and the campaign only went on for 10 months, and most of that was going on already after the result was set.

    Dannevirke and the retreat from it, in the snow (-10 Celcius routinely at the time), Dybbol and the siege there and in Als next to it, was pretty much all of that military side of the affair.
     
  6. aelf

    aelf Ashen One

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    Where's Domen to write one long post about a similar Polish war drama and about glorious Poland that nobody will care about?
     
  7. storealex

    storealex In service of peace

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    Thank you Cutlass! I do read on the forum from time to time. Some interesting discussions. But real life took over my life :D

    Kyriakos, it might be sold to more countries. Germany has bought a few Danish movies in the past.

    Im surprised to see such detailed knowledge about the war from a Greek? The war is very well know in Denmark because it was so instrumental in our history, but I wouldn't have guessed people from other countries to know about it.

    Anyway, a lot can happen in 10 months of war. The Franco-Prussian war lasted 10 months too, and the Austrian-Prussian war only took two. The war might even had lasted longer, were it not for the Danish politicians insistence to make a last suicidal stand at Dybbøl despite the plea of the generals. Our Stalingrad. Not that we could ever have defeated Prussia and Austria, but with our superior navy we could have at least sailed our army to the islands and saved it from a catastrophic defeat.

    As it happened there were a lot of minor battles and skirmishes that could be included in the series. Sankelmark in particular.
     
  8. Hygro

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    hey its storealex! :wavey:

    I'm pretty excited for this show.
     
  9. Kyriakos

    Kyriakos Alien spiral maker

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    It was the trailer which prompted me to read some stuff about 1864 :yup:
    I plan to watch the series anyway. Looks very well-produced.
     
  10. storealex

    storealex In service of peace

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    Hi Hygro :) Good to see familiar posters still hanging on!

    Kyriakos, if you're interested you should read about the first Slesvig war too from 1848-1851. It is more interesting in my opinion since it was less one sided, and had some brilliant successes some idiotic blunders.
    The Danes used their superior navy to move the army around at will, concentrating their forces at Frederica and striking behind enemy lines, in a tactical move later echoed by MacArthur in Korea.
    However the Danes also sailed two wooden ships of the line into a fjord, getting caught in crossfire by German cannons and unable to escape due to poor wind and poor planning.

    The war is full of strategical and tactical finesse and foolishness. Quite interesting.
     
  11. Antilogic

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    First time I've seen this trailer, pretty excited to see the final product.

    Was a bit confused by the 300-style title graphics at the end, though.
     
  12. Kyriakos

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    I think it is echoing 300 a bit, while probably being a lot more faithful to the history side. Not sure what the deal was with both brothers kissing the girl in the mouth (it appears she was in a relationship with one of them). Then again it is less random than a transgender vampire, or a bearded woman ;)

    Anyway it will start being aired 150 years after the end of the 1864 war.
     
  13. CavLancer

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    Great. Why should small nations bow before large nations when their army is ready to make the enemy pay for their arrogance, and by doing so pay the price for resistance? Isn't the willingness to serve the same as the willingness to fight for one's country and pay the supreme sacrifice? Otherwise why should small nations even bother?
     
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    That was more like the first Schleswig-Holstein war, when Denmark actually won. The second one (1864) was a pretty one-sided affair. I suppose the fact that Austria was there too, and sent its fleet to antagonise the Danish one, played a significant role to how the war was handled by Denmark, and the loss of those regions.
     
  15. Domen

    Domen Misico dux Vandalorum

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    We don't have any similar war drama so far. Denmark has just outclassed us in nationalism with this movie.

    Because if they don't bow, they will become "chauvinist nationalists". And this is the worst offense.

    Everyone should just become either Yankees or Germs. These two nationalisms are the only approved ones.

    Get over Non-Germ nationalism and get assimilated by very Stronk Germs. Like it happened to Danes in Schleswig:

    http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=522455

     
  16. CavLancer

    CavLancer This aint fertilizer

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    Everything is so simple isn't it Domen?
     
  17. Domen

    Domen Misico dux Vandalorum

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    Everything is so simple, that it resembles simple unicellular organisms, known as...

    The world should also become unicellular. Who needs diversity of languages, after all.

    BTW - can you explain why Deutschland is called "Germany", even though Scandinavian languages are also Germanic?

    Someone stole the name. It is like if Russia was called "Slavia" and Romania was called "Romania". Oh, wait...
     
  18. storealex

    storealex In service of peace

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    You haven't seen it yet ;) Anyway, the story that series and the movie will tell is how foolish Danish politicians led Denmark into a situation where war was hard to avoid, and how they later overruled the generals into making one catastrophic mistake after an other. Hardly our finest hour.
     
  19. Domen

    Domen Misico dux Vandalorum

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    Well... You did not say that this is a Prussian/German-sponsored movie. Sorry to hear this sad news.

    Germans rarely film movies on how their foolish politicians led to defeat in two world wars, collapse of Germany, etc.

    "Generation War" was rather about how "normal Germans" tried to save Jews from Anti-Semitic savage Ukrainians:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE5AERj_7Zs

    And that pro-Ukrainian SS officer was probably not even German, as we "know" that the SS was multinational.
     
  20. storealex

    storealex In service of peace

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    Actually the combined navies of Prussia and Austria never really challenged the Danish superiority of the seas. Denmark was victorious in the few naval skirmishes that were and blockaded the Northern German harbors for the duration of the war.

    Prussia alone was much stronger than Denmark. It's new army organization was to prove stronger than anyone anticipated. First Denmark, later Austria and France all fell victim to underestimating it (And Bismarck). It had better training, better rifles and better canons. If necessary almost unlimited troops. Add to that Austria, an other major power and it was clear that in a war Jutland could not be held.

    Still Denmark didn't really believe that Bismarck would declare war. And if he did, we thought our Scandinavian brothers from Norway and Sweden would come to our aid. Or England and Russia would intervene on our behalf, as they did the last time.
    Hindsight proved this policy foolish, but at that time the Danish government was in a "Damned if we do, damned if we don't" situation.

    When the war came it was lost from the get go. But Denmark could have dragged it on indefinitely, blocking German trade and concentrating it's army on the Islands of Als and Fyn. Instead we sacrificed our army in a foolish attempt to hold a small stretch of land that no longer had military value and was impossible to defend.
     

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