Equality of Opportunity in the US

[Yared]

Inspired by this post:

we have more than enough "equality of opportunity"

actually nothing stop you from bootstrapping

you just can't accept rich people are hard-working smart individual and poor people tend to be high school dropout-baby mom

What do you think about EoO in the US? Is it bad? Is it good? How is it bad/good?

This is a broad question so I hope there are a lot of discussion.

Discuss!

 

[civver_764]

It simply doesn't exist.

 

[Godwynn]

Somewhere around the Meh... area.

 

[Cutlass]

Where you're born on the socioeconomic ladder has more to do to determine where you end up than any other factor. But it's not a hard limitation.

 

[Dumanios]

I say the meh area.

Good: We got past the stages of Slavery and Segregation by Race and Sex, and we are a blend of cultures.

Bad: We're stuck in the Gay Rights stage, Illegal immigration is a problem because Green Cards cost so much (or so I've heard), Everyone is an acceptable target, depending on where you go.

 

[Ajidica]

It exists, but it is going downhill rapidly.

 

[emzie]

Having grown up an affluent suburbs, nothing was out of reach growing up. Anytime I drove through southeastern Ohio though, I was reminded of the opportunities I had.

I'll go with "meh" -- it exists but the work involved to rise up from poverty is a whole lot more than the work involved to stay upper-middle class between generations.

 

[ArneHD]

I voted for horrible, not because I think that it actually is that bad, but because I think that a communist revolution in the US would be really funny to watch.

Also, for those of you who are going to say that this is already happening: STOP, because you are WRONG and I am going TO capitalise and emphasise RANDOM words to MAKE you understand THIS.

 

[Yared]

This thread needs moar USA-lovers.

 

[choxorn]

We also need more communist revolutionaries.

 

[Karalysia]

You summoned me master?

 

[Traitorfish]

If we could dig up a USA-loving communist revolutionary, that'd be handy. Pity the only one we have to hand is a committed Russophile.

 

[choxorn]

You summoned me master?

Yes... the time to strike is now. At last we shall reveal ourselves to the Jedi to America. At least we shall have revenge.

 

[Leonel]

We also need more communist revolutionaries.

Don't you worry about that. If the rich keep getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer we'll get there soon enough!

 

[choxorn]

Rise, opressed workers of America, throw off the shackles of the rich and overthrow your opressors!

 

[Cutlass]

Don't you worry about that. If the rich keep getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer we'll get there soon enough!

I keep saying that. No one listens to me.

 

[Karalysia]

I keep saying that. No one listens to me.

The most amusing part is that in the US the government unlike most European countries doesn't have a monopoly on weapons, or the use of force. There's a ridiculous proliferation of guns which makes such a thing far more dangerous than that sort of thing happening in Britain where the government has a monopoly on the means of force and institutions of coercion and can gun down people with little physical retaliation against it.

 

[civver_764]

Not like it makes a difference. A few guys with assault rifles < the American military.

 

[generalstaff]

A few guys with assault rifles < the American military.

How's the war in Afghanistan going?

 

[Karalysia]

Fallujah in American cities is sort of serious.