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Erdogan: Nato isn't strong enough to stand against Turkey

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Kyriakos, Mar 10, 2018.

  1. Kyriakos

    Kyriakos Alien spiral maker

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    The gift that keeps on giving -- but it is good that in such a case Turkey is out of Nato, else this is just ridiculously poor arithmetic :D

    Some days ago, we first had an advisor to Erdo, namely Erdogan's chief advisor Bulut, who declared that "not the 6th fleet (ie the US fleet in the med), not the 66th fleet is strong enough to deterTurkey"

    http://m.naftemporiki.gr/story/1327...not-6th-not-even-66th-fleet-will-deter-turkey

    But why go with a mere advisor, when you can quote Erdogan himself, declaring that NATO members are not powerful enough to stand up to Turkey:

    https://ahvalnews.com/turkey/nato-members-are-not-powerful-enough-stand-turkey-erdogan



    Isn't it time to have the US public - not its oligarchy; they like Saudi too - identify that Turkey should be nowhere near the civilized world - even the civilized world as it currently is...? :)
     
  2. Broken_Erika

    Broken_Erika Neurotic Panda

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    Didn't you know that one Turkish soldier can easily beat 999 billion-trillion-frooglepoopillion EU soldiers blindfolded with both hands tied behind his back while asleep? An Erdogan himself can easily defeat all the worlds navies combined with his bare hands!
     
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  3. Synsensa

    Synsensa Warlord Retired Moderator

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    It's unfortunate that the Turkish people are subjected to Erdogan and his court. They have the capacity of being a strong force of progressiveness in the region but have that position squandered by men with delusions of grandeur.
     
  4. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Another drone in the hive mind

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    Yeah, if the Turkish navy wants to get into it with Exxon backed by the USNavy they are in for a rough ride. I'd give better than even odds that three US attack subs could sink their entire fleet without even revealing who did it.
     
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  5. Kyriakos

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    There is also the precedent of the (supposedly) "4rth strongest army" (Iraq just before the first gulf war). Wasn't much of a battle. Let alone that US provides Turkey with its main battle pieces, so those won't be replaced.

    Maybe this time instead of a Kuwait, we will have Kurdwait, but with the same ruin and then endless nation-building of the former US-ally in the region :)

    Imo what is even more funny is that loon Erdogan actually believes Russia will back him in a war with the US :lol:
     
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  6. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Another drone in the hive mind

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    I didn't look at surface ships, but their submarine fleet is all German export models. You know, the "these aren't good enough for our Navy, but let's sell them all over the third world" class.
     
  7. Kyriakos

    Kyriakos Alien spiral maker

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    Airplanes are all sold by the US, though. ^^
     
  8. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Another drone in the hive mind

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    Navy guy. Airplanes aren't "main battle pieces." They're ammunition.
     
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  9. FriendlyFire

    FriendlyFire Codex WMDicanious

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    Thats really expensive ammunition
    I think they might well be on the way to replacing manned aircraft with unmaned drone aircraft, it cant be to far away
     
  10. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    A lot of Turkish navy ships are former USN. And in some cases, very former.
     
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  11. Synsensa

    Synsensa Warlord Retired Moderator

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    What is Turkish military discipline like these days?
     
  12. Broken_Erika

    Broken_Erika Neurotic Panda

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    Given that Erdogan has purged their officer corps of anyone who isn't a die hard AKP supporter and anyone capable of independent thought; I doubt they'd do well in any sort of conflict.
     
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    Thorgalaeg Chieftain

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    Turkey has always been a giant with feet of clay.
     
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    It's the same with their land forces as well. Everything they have are just old American and German hand-me-downs with some Belgian and French stuff thrown in there occasionally.
     
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    FriendlyFire Codex WMDicanious

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    Never start a land war in Asia Minor ! :nono:
    Air war and Navy war should be ok though :lol:

    EDIT: Tradewar would be even more deverstating
     
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    Erdo, a few days ago. This is from a speech to his new ally party, the "Gray Wolves". Wiki link for that party is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Wolves_(organization).

    Tldr Gray wolves is a pan-touranist (Turkey expanding up to central Asia and other such funny things) party, but more importantly they have a paramilitary branch responsible for scores of assassinations both inside and outside Turkey. They are on terror group watch as well (not sure if by the US currently, but also by the US in the past, ala KLA).

    Maybe @r16 can shed some light on how good these gray wolves are. Iirc they are the ones he comically refers to as "the almost racists" (which is r16 jargon for 'even the turkish public identifies these people are dangerous goons') :p

    ps: the funny hand sign Erdo does is the gray wolf sign. Not very imaginative; just some wolf-like figure.
     
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    Go Wolfs Go sign?
     
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  18. Owen Glyndwr

    Owen Glyndwr La Femme Moderne

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    Wyld Stallyns rule!
     
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  19. red_elk

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    Russia is planning to sell him S-400 (modern air defense), most likely to annoy other NATO members and further alienate Turkey from it.
    Still, bad idea IMO.

    Likewise, we are selling weapons to Azerbaijan and then trying to calm them down when they are threatening our ally. The only valid explanation is that they are going to buy them anyway and if they buy ours, at least they will be dependent on us in maintenance.
     
  20. EnglishEdward

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    I'm sure Russia left a backdoor into the software so that they can be made inaccurate before use against Russian military.
     

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