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Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by sonicmyst, Jul 13, 2020.

  1. 8housesofelixir

    8housesofelixir Prince

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    Thank you for point that out. When ley line was announced I did thought it have some historical/folklore basis, since it just looks like long mai to me. I can party understand why there are people being pissed off by ley lines now.
     
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  2. Zaarin

    Zaarin Chief Medical Officer, DS9

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    Yeah, it was basically a chance alignment that got casually pointed out by an amateur who didn't quite understand the concept of "probability." :p It then got picked up as having some "mystic meaning" by New Age gurus in the 60s before even they for the most part abandoned it. Like I said, connecting it to something like feng shui would have been a lot easier to buy--at least for me.
     
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  3. 8housesofelixir

    8housesofelixir Prince

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    The official Chinese translation of the DLC does translate ley lines as 地脈 (di mai, the artery of land/earth) which is an alternative expression of 龍脈 in feng shui knowledge. So it's probably a lot easier to buy for the Chinese community.
     
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  4. Kwami

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    It's not like feng shui is any more real than ley lines, though. It's all just nonsense. Ley lines are just more recent nonsense.
     
  5. Zaarin

    Zaarin Chief Medical Officer, DS9

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    Yeah, but the difference is that some idiot in 1920 noticed some things in a line and said, "Hey, these must be a highway!" whereas feng shui actually has a traditional system of believe surrounding it. To me it's the difference between choosing Dido as a leader or Lady Liberty as a leader.
     
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  6. Kwami

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    I mean, I guess. I kind of like the "old timey British scientific society" feeling that they went with, though. With the ley lines, the alchemy, and so on. I think it would have been harder to implement a society with the feeling of old timey Chinese officials without feeling kind of stereotypy. The whole "old Asian mystic" trope and all. Eh, whatever. Nonsense is nonsense. I don't much care, so long as it's fun nonsense!
     
  7. sonicmyst

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    I had played 3 out of the 4 SS already. And I would like to say they are not as OP as I thought they would be. Yes, it made my games easier and faster to win but not game-breaking level so far.

    Now if only AI get better in combat...
     
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  8. Zaarin

    Zaarin Chief Medical Officer, DS9

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    The Chinese had alchemy, too. I'm convinced the Chinese alchemists knew what they were doing when the prescribed arsenic and mercury to Qin Shi Huangdi for a long life. :p
     
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  9. iammaxhailme

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    Just want to show off another good Teddy start (with a few mods active). 19 science and 21 culture on turn 20 (quick speed), pretty crazy. Got earth goddess too, since I got the voidsingers/old god monument from a goody hut quite quickly so I got my faith up soon.
     

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  10. GunsGermsandSteel

    GunsGermsandSteel Warlord

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    I like Ethopia! I won my first Immortal victory with them this weekend. They have a great faith economy so I was able to pull off a pretty quick RV.
     
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  11. 8housesofelixir

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    This may be off topic, but just for a side note: I have seen lots of statement about "Qin Shi Huang took mercury as elixir and died of mercury poisoning" on both Chinese and Western internet. However in early Chinese sources there isn't any indication that Qin took/died because of mercury.

    Shiji
    didn't mention anything about mercury and Qin (besides the mercury rivers inside Qin's tomb, which doesn't like something Qin would like to drink when he was still alive). Mercury didn't become an internal medicine in Chinese sources till Jin Dynasty, which is 500 years after Qin; and the idea that "mercury=elixir" only popularized in Tang Dynasty - there are records of Tang emperors took prescribed arsenic, but not before Tang. Qin Shi Huang did have a group of "alchemists" (方士), but it seems their idea of "elixir" is more "natural" than "artificial", since these people all tried to find elixir in oversea expeditions - Xu Fu is a perfect example - rather than tried to create them in a workshop.

    If anything, Shiji does indicate that Qin might died because of serious seasickness. In his last inspection tour, Qin Shi Huang, a man born in the interior China and never travelling by the sea in his life before, traveled at least 1000 kms in the open sea off coast of eastern China. Qin fell seriously ill shortly after he returned to land and died within a week.
     
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  12. Jkchart

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    Ethiopia is pretty strong - even with fewer campuses and theater squares, the stupid high faith yield really translated to high culture and science easily. You just have to remember to build in hills! :p

    I also really like the Secret Societies...but does the AI actually use their cultists? There was a large convention around scotland (like 20 from indonesia) but they didn't ever use the ability to my knowledge, which is a huge money sink and faith sink unless they tweak the AI with regards to them.
     
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  13. MrRadar

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    You can build National Parks on Ley Line tiles! At least some improvement is possible, then:
     
  14. Alexander's Hetaroi

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    If only you were Bull Moose Teddy.
    Good thing to keep in mind now when playing him.
     
  15. God of Kings

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    Ley line skeptics even made a "ley" line of pizza parlours in London to prove the absurdity of ley lines:

     
  16. Alexander's Hetaroi

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    If the red line is supposed to be the ley line of course the skeptics would draw it kind of horizontally.
    If you draw a line somewhat vertical in the middle you could come across a lot of them. :p
     
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  17. Zaarin

    Zaarin Chief Medical Officer, DS9

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    Which would actually even better make the skeptics' point that the alignment is purely by chance. :p
     
  18. Pietato

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    They only inherit the strength of produced/bought corps/armies. Merging two units does nothing for them. And I believe by melee strength it means just the value, not the unit type. The patch notes do not mention melee units only, just unit.

    Additionally, vampire castles snapshot yields and do not dynanically update, which is incredibly frustrating. Vampires also cannot remove castles despite the patch notes saying they can.
     
  19. Laurana Kanan

    Laurana Kanan Don’t underestimate who I am.

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    Anton specifically said Melee units in the livestream though, which added to the confusion of what that actual column in the units table meant.
     
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  20. Amrunril

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    While vampires can't remove their own castles, builders can (at least in your own land, I don't know whether or not it works in neutral territory), and once they've done so, your castle count will be low enough for you to rebuild in the same location (or elsewhere, if you prefer). It's definitely annoying to have to manually rebuild to update yields, especially if you want to have your vampires actually killing things, but at least it's not impossible.
     

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