EU votes against freedom!!!!!
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Having worked in France and observed the application of the rules first hand - very few people worked 35 hours a week, they just didn't get paid overtime.Damn, now the French will have to work 13 hours more every week to meet Brussels limit!
Anyways I thought that was one of the first things Sarkozy
got rid of?
Since when have small businesses been either targetted or impacted by all the formal regulations of labour? It ain't exactly hard to dodge around such legislation when everything's personal and done informally. That's one of the chief advantages of being small. In fact I'd argue that most countries tacitly endorse this, or should, since it's how things work in reality.
Labour laws are needed to prevent big companies taking advantage of power imbalances to exploit people, like, say, that crap Starbucks pulled earlier this year. I don't think anyone expects top-down labour laws to reach right down into the small and informal economy.
The law is the law. No nation should be endorsing that small businesses break it to survive. Just change the law instead.
But, not my country (union, whatever).
You've never paid someone in cash to keep it under the table, or neglected to report some income, or employed a family member in some special pay arrangement, or not bothered to adhere some labour regulation that doesn't really apply well anyway? That's what small business is all about! Personal touch and nimbleness their biggest competitive advantage.
Sack up and be a man!
Sack up and be a man!
So it's right when a small company does it, but if a big company does it, it's bad?
I think there's a very large difference between the way regulatory regimes and tax agencies treat the local corner shop and a multinational supermarket chain. That's just pragmatic, not to mention a reality-based description of how things actually work. But if you wanna run around throwing the 'g' and 'b' labels at everything, be my guest sir.
Yes, but a lot of people who work overtime are not paid for it.
No. 35 hours is still the legal time. But he has made overtime easier and more interesting to work around it.Anyways I thought that was one of the first things Sarkozy
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Diverse in Unity
Have you read what I have wrote or are you completely out of reality nowI feel that somewhat personal when you are attacking any my post, that "your english suck" posts were at least logical.
I see it in hospital and private industry company, everybody is simply ignoring that restrictions.
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Christ, listen to yourself sometimes, you sound like some Balkan nationalist boasting and bragging about petty things, while the reality is different.
There is a 40-hour workweek here in the Czech rep. We have overtime work rules that allow people to work as they wish for more money. It is not that we dodge the system and we're not even good at it: remember how our shops started wrapping up pastry, because some bureaucrats misinterpreted the EU directive about food safety? Then we found out that nobody else was doing it and that we probably made a mistake somewhere.
This is that world-famous Czech ability to dodge the system?
Nah, we're just a scared little law-abiding nation, just like most others. Get over it and find anything else to brag about.
Enkidu Warrior
Ultramagnetic
I work 60 hours a week, but then Japan is Japan and England is England. I think the aims of the legislation are worthy and the "choice" offered by the UK's opt-out is an illusion, so I would back the EU on this one. I would object to being restricted to 48 hours here though. Does that make me a hypocrit?
just like the gub'mint!
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
OMG socialism is evil.
The EU is just trying to protect employees from being exploited.
Those words exactly, and extraordinarily amusing
Archbob
Ancient CFC Guardian
If I want to work 144 hours per week, I should be allowed to.
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
I think that you will feel in another way after actually trying it (If you haven't) and if you had you're one of several thousands at least who do not want to get exploited that way.
Enkidu Warrior
Ultramagnetic
And if you employ someone to work 144 hours per week you should be prosecuted.
Theory with Germans wanting take our market at least entertained me. They already have took it long time before EUChrist, listen to yourself sometimes, you sound like some Balkan nationalist boasting and bragging about petty things, while the reality is different.
There is a 40-hour workweek here in the Czech rep. We have overtime work rules that allow people to work as they wish for more money. It is not that we dodge the system and we're not even good at it: remember how our shops started wrapping up pastry, because some bureaucrats misinterpreted the EU directive about food safety? Then we found out that nobody else was doing it and that we probably made a mistake somewhere.
This is that world-famous Czech ability to dodge the system?
Todays accusition me nationalist is old, I am long-term Green Party supporter. Not because I agree with them in majority of things but they are less corrupted. That you believe in all what media brings you its not my problem, ask parents how its going (if they are not in Siemens or something like that, comapnies which are very touchy on productivity) or check university researchs and questionnaires. Some people in healthcare have records more than 100 hours per week, median is more than 50. If I would be nationalist I would be probably more critical on abroad than on my country, its true that we are known that we dont care much about laws but I dont see it as positive trait, I dont get it why my joking about it you consider as nationalist. You have to have different belief system than is common.
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Theory with Germans wanting take our market at least entertained me. They already have took it long time before EU
I have no idea what you are trying to say and I don't really care, so lets stop right here.
