EU Wishes to sue Israel for Destroying EU-Funded PA Buildings

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The EU wishes to sue Israel for destorying Palestinien-Atuhority buildings that were funded by the EU like the radio broadcasting station (That was broadcasting Anti-Israel Radio) and other buildings.

That raises a few questions to my head:
1. What did the EU think would happen after funding buildings for a terror-supporting entity. Why wont the EU sue USA for destroying buildings in afghanistan aswell? is it any different? (And yes, the EU did donate to build infrastructures in afghanistan).
2. Since when you can sue a country for destroying buildings as part of war (And war against terror/Terror supporting entities is still war)?
3. For a lot of time Israel did its best to retaliate without hurting any civilians, and did it good (And I do not call the 5 terrorists who died civilians), and just when it does it so well without hurting the palestinien people the EU wants to sue it for destroying infrastructure and buildings, which happens as a result in even the slightest of wars, isn't that provocative and hypocritical?

I'll appreciate if anyone else posts their opinions on the case :)
 
Israel could try prosecuting EU officials for funding terrorism.
 
On the same thread I would like to point out a few other points (for arguementing/questioning):

1. I think that countries that do not suffer from terror can afford the luxurie of criticsizing Israel's policies when preventing terror, such as belgium or sweden. but look at this: When the nazies invaded other countries the swedish cooperated with them with no problem, allowing them to install trains and take jews to their camps at will. isn't that a war crime?
2. Belgium did very horrible things on their camps in africa, isn't that a war crime?
3. Just when USA gets its 2 twin towers collapsing as result from terror, it does not question itself and bombs the hell out of afghanistan killing thousands of afghans in the way, more citizens than israel ever hurt EVER in the war against palestinien terror. yet the EU did not question these policies, and even supported USA for doing that.
4. It doesn't matter what are the background stats, but the fact is that Israeli Citizens are threatened daily by terror. The Israeli government does all it can to protect them, and yes, a siege is a very effective way to prevent terror. Is a siege worse than just randomly bombing citizens? how much citizens did Israel hurt in a 50 years battle and how much citizens did USA and Britain hurt in a 1 month battle?

I want to point out that in my (yet subjective and humble) opinion, the IDF is the most humane army in the world:
- Where else would you see a country split in half because it is hurting a few civilians in the way of killing terrorists? any country that was ever in war against anything was united in their opinions to smash everything in the way. the european wars carried millions of victims while Israels war with palestinien terror carries only very few innocent victims.
- Where else would you see army-generals refusing to shoot other nations people because they are young or manipulated, even when they shoot at you with M-16, Ak47's, molotov cocktails, grenades and threaten your life just like you threaten theirs.
- Where else would you see an army that is willing to sacrifice its own life in order to prevent death of a few palestiniens? Israeli Outposts are getting attacked every day by palestiniens, something that randomly bombing like USA does could prevent.
- Where else would you see a country that hurted almost no citizens while killing terrorists? are operations are carefully planned up to the minute and only one in a 100 cases goes screwed up and hurts 1 or 2 citizens.

Let me ask you a question: How can war happen without civilian casualties? last month there were much more Israeli civilians dead than palestinien civilians, even though we have a massive bigger and better army. we dont kill 100 palestiniens for every dead israeli, for gods sakes, we didnt kill 1 palestinien in our last 10 retaliations for palestinien suicide attacks! we only bomb empty infrastructure/terror housing buildings, and we even notify the people to evacuate the building before bombing it! and even on that the EU sues us! for destroying god damn empty buildings they funded as part of our retaliation.

about the colonizations. Because we have people living in foreign territories does not give the palestiniens the right to kill them at free will. A MAN WHEREVER HE LIVES AND AS LONG AS HE DOES NOT THREATEN OTHER PEOPLE HAS THE RIGHT TO LIVE. THAT IS THE BASIS OF DEMOCRACY, DONT FORGET THAT. YET NO ONE EVER MENTIONS THE PALESTINIENS KILLING ISRAELIES IN COLONIZATIONS EVERY DAY THAT DID NOT EVEN PROVOCATE THEM.

Democracy is constructed with a rule called freedom of living. now freedom of living 'applies' in most democratic countries as long as the human does not put other people life in danger on purpose, and in most democratic countries the right of living applies more to its own citizens than to other countries citizens in times of war. the israeli colonizations does not threaten the lives of palestinien people, yet the palestinien terrorists shoot and kill israeli citizens in colonizations and inside country every day. why no one here ever complains about that?
each time a european opens a threat about the Israeli-Palestinien conflict its always about the horrible things the israelies do or about the horrible colonizations. but the fact is as meanie mean the colonizations are: there is no palestinien state, there are no palestinien defined borders, and the colonizations do not risk in any way the lives of other palestiniens.
You also have to remember this: If an arab, with fully equal rights, enters an israeli city that is full with jews, there is no quesiton about his life. he will come out just like he entered, yet if an israeli enters a palestinien village, in a peaceful way, with no guns or stones, he will be dead in the second. you remember the linch of the 4 israeli soldiers? 40 year old israeli soldiers were kidnapped, and brutally stabbed, murdered, beaten to death by the raging palestinien people. we are angry on the palestinien terrorists. we define whats a terrorist and whats not. the palestinien terrorists kill every israeli they can - women, children, old people.

You have to remember there is a big difference between killing 5 terrorists and hurting 1 civilian to secure the safety of one countries citizens, than targeting places like restaraunts, kindergardens and teen-clubs inside the green-line. there is a MAJOR difference and everyone should remember it next time they mention 'The horible things' Israel is doing to the palestiniens.

I want comments and I want a provocative arguement :)
 
Same thing happens in the US that happens in Israel/Palestine.....

People refuse to do what it takes to reduce poverty and then are surprised, shocked....indignant....when crime and violence erupts from the man made slums.

You get what you pay for.
 
http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/mostly.html

Read that, adebisi.

BTW, what peacekeeping force are you talking about? the same that is in lebanon, that not only does nothing to stop the hizbullah, but also cooperated with the hizbullah on the kidnapping of 3 Israeli soldiers? the same peacekeeping force that yelled 'The jews ate it' when hizbullah killed/kidnapped 3 of our soldiers, as the video tape showed it?
Since when the europeans have the right to interfear with 'peace-keeping force'?
In the same tone I want to send some IDF militias as peace keeping force to france, because of the anti-semitite racism there :p
I also want to send a peace keeping force to afghanistan, and a peace keeping force to Ireland (or is it too late?).

Also
http://www.jcrc.org/main/intifada-violence.htm
its not that they dont try, its just they dont shoot as well as our soldiers, fortunately for us. if they had the training of our soldiers they would kill about 60 times the ammount of people we killed.


Adebisy, unfortunately most of your opinions are pointless. USA did not attack afghanistan to form a more democratic government there, you know and i know it was retaliation because the taliban would not hand over bin-laden. well the PA wont hand over and wont arrest terrorists we list to them, so we attack their empty buildings. the PA is incharge to take care of terror, and I dont give a **** at what thier policy means as long as they are doing nothing. its not like we kill the PA, we just 'punish' them for not taking steps against terror. in neither of our retalitations in the last month we killed palestiniens fortunately, and god bless my army for that.

And also, stop saying everything I say is lies. prove its lies.

http://www.adl.org/israel/pa_attacks.asp

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1003000/1003684.stm <--- Old, but still applies

http://www.adl.org/Israel/advocacy/advoc_misstate2.asp?xflag=1#f1 - Read it
 
Lefty has the best response to the frivolous lawsuit brought by the EU.
 
Originally posted by DinoDoc
Lefty has the best response to the frivolous lawsuit brought by the EU.

I agree. Beleifs about policy aside, this lawsuit is stupid. This is about government policies and diplomatic relations. If you want to show your disapproval, put sanctions on them. And don't give the US vetoed line. You can do it without the UN if you want. Cut off diplomatic relations, that kind of thing. In other words, play the diplomatic game by the diplomatic rules, not with some kind of courtroom rules from the courtroom game.
 
Originally posted by DinoDoc
Lefty has the best response to the frivolous lawsuit brought by the EU.

Yes! Answer with another frivolous lawsuit. That's a spectacular idea.

Actually, Knowltok is right, though. There are much more appropriate and effective ways to deal with this.

All they're trying to accomplish is to make a statement, and the courts are the wrong tool to use.
 
Originally posted by VoodooAce
Yes! Answer with another frivolous lawsuit. That's a spectacular idea.

One stupid lawsuit deserves another. It's the American way. :goodjob:
 
Originally posted by VoodooAce


Yes! Answer with another frivolous lawsuit. That's a spectacular idea.

Actually, Knowltok is right, though. There are much more appropriate and effective ways to deal with this.

All they're trying to accomplish is to make a statement, and the courts are the wrong tool to use.

Wow, Voodoo agrees with me outside of the evolution thread!!;)
 
Originally posted by Knowltok


Wow, Voodoo agrees with me outside of the evolution thread!!;)

:eek: I've been having some dental work done the last couple of weeks. I finally paid off my truck so I could sell it and get my teeth fixed. I call it my Trucks for Teeth program..... :D

So, anyway, Knoltok, its the drugs. :lol:
 
The EU is within it's rights.

(Not that I'm taking sides with either camp in this ludicrious
bloodshed between Israel and the Palestinians.)

I think a nation with military power cannot just destroy anything
and expect to be exonerated.

Remember the USA bombing the Chinese embassy building in
the Serbian conflict? They ended up eating humble pie,
and quite rightly.

The Rule of Law must be enforced, or chaos is the result.
Some one owned those buildings, they still lost money.
The EU should be compensated.
 
It is part of a hypocritical bull**** political agenda that is automatically anti-Israeli and pro-Palestinian, no matter what happens.

I concur with the general sentiments expressed by the others of similar thinking in this thread. These perverse mandarins in the EU need to live in the real world, but that is hardly likely...
 
Originally posted by CurtSibling
Some one owned those buildings, they still lost money.
The EU should be compensated.

If you lend money to a terrorist organization, some amount of risk is implied in the agreement that you could end up loosing your money. Perhaps the EU should learn that lesson before it throws money around.
 
It is part of a hypocritical bull**** political agenda that is automatically anti-Israeli and pro-Palestinian, no matter what happens.

I concur with the general sentiments expressed by the others of similar thinking in this thread. These perverse mandarins in the EU need to live in the real world, but that is hardly likely...

Just because the E.u has another foriegn policy towards Israel makes it ruled by hypocrytical perverse mandarin's???
Most inhabitant's of the European Union elect leader's they think are capable of their task ,so no need to patronize our oppinion's ,we may not have a more intelligent foureign policy than some country's but we certainly aint have a less inteligent foureign policy than whatever country in this world.

The whole world is hypocritical bull****,don't you ever watch tv?
 
Originally posted by TheDuckOfFlanders


Just because the E.u has another foriegn policy towards Israel makes it ruled by hypocrytical perverse mandarin's???
Most inhabitant's of the European Union elect leader's they think are capable of their task ,so no need to patronize our oppinion's ,we may not have a more intelligent foureign policy than some country's but we certainly aint have a less inteligent foureign policy than whatever country in this world.

The whole world is hypocritical bull****,don't you ever watch tv?

First of all, I don't base my observations and impressions of the world upon television, as it is a notoriously biased medium. It is very useful for real time intell, but for heavier issues, more refined sources are required.

I did not say that the EU as a whole was ruled by perverse mandarins, but rather that the architects for these reflex anti-Israeli actions are so.
It is not just a matter of being allowed to have a different foreign policy when it is one that is so manifestly nonsensical and based upon a crusade of a particular political agenda. It is not a matter of calling a foreign policy intelligent or not, as I did not do so in my original argument (even if it is a most unintelligent, biased and idiotic policy;) ), but rather asserting the fact that most of the rumblings emerging from the EU are virulently anti-Israeli, and the poor PA can do no wrong.


The operative word in your statement is the people elect leaders they "THINK" are capable, when most conmen/politicians would be able to convince people that they were so. They are not, and they have chosen the wrong side, but that is fairly much par for the course for these demented Eurocom demagogues.;) :p
 
Originally posted by CurtSibling
The EU is within it's rights.

(Not that I'm taking sides with either camp in this ludicrious
bloodshed between Israel and the Palestinians.)

I think a nation with military power cannot just destroy anything
and expect to be exonerated.

Remember the USA bombing the Chinese embassy building in
the Serbian conflict? They ended up eating humble pie,
and quite rightly.

The Rule of Law must be enforced, or chaos is the result.
Some one owned those buildings, they still lost money.
The EU should be compensated.

CurtSibling, you are comparing two different things. first of all, the EU knew they are throwing money into the middle of war that is caused by terror, into the middle of an organization claimed by israel and united states 'terror supporting'.
On the same tone Israel can sue the EU for buying illegal weapons to terror organizations because 70% of the money they send is used for illegal weapons and support for terror organizations (Remember Karine-A, the 20 million dollar weapon ship bought from Iran?, who's money you think that was?).
Basically, on one hand the EU says the PA should fight terror every two days and thats where the political interfearence to the Israeli-Favoured side ends. from now on its all 'Dont assasinate terrorists', 'Clear all colonizations immediatly', 'Remove all seizures immediatly' sentences, and as an extra they contribute millions of euros to the palestinien authority, just like an extra prize for them for not fighting terror, when they know that their money is used to fund manipulating education, illegal weapons, weapon ships like karine A, another helicopter for arafat (he used to have 5 but we destroyed 2), and partly but not oftenly to some infrastructure like an anti-israel radio braodcasting station and such.

If you want the link to the manipulating palestinien education find the thread 'Another one bites to dust' I started a week ago or so, here in off topic. you will be amazed by the things you will see on that link. and remember , the EU funds it.
 
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