Lord_Sidious
No Fun At All
Did you guys downloaded AGCEEP?(in 1 of my posts above)It's very cool and much better.
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hawai_74
mac über alles
only for Windows, hm?
Lord_Sidious
No Fun At All
yeah i think....
Gelion
Retired Captain
Is anyone still playing EU? 
Reno
The Studio Ghibli Fanatic
I am atleast, 
currently i am stuck as a game with Brabant the year is 1486 and i have unified all of Belgium and i know every thing on the map from the coast of Argentina to India. (Portugal is a good ally to have. )
currently i am stuck as a game with Brabant the year is 1486 and i have unified all of Belgium and i know every thing on the map from the coast of Argentina to India. (Portugal is a good ally to have. )
Gelion
Retired Captain
Never thought of Portugal that way, thanks
In my last game I tried to be Orlean.
Bad experience. I kept dying every time....
In my last game I tried to be Orlean.
Bad experience. I kept dying every time....
Reno
The Studio Ghibli Fanatic
Yeah, if you survive the English just wait until the French come after you with a diplo annex order. 
You never have to accept those diploannex things. Thus nations like Bohemia are playable... 
(I'm quite happy with this game as I finally managed to create a proper Germany that has been able to beat up Austria several times and even won a BB war against France before losing a second BB war against them (still gained one province overall).
(I'm quite happy with this game as I finally managed to create a proper Germany that has been able to beat up Austria several times and even won a BB war against France before losing a second BB war against them (still gained one province overall).
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Reno
The Studio Ghibli Fanatic
Look's good cept' for Austria still having Vienna inside your territory. a couple of questions though.
Did you start in the 1419 Grand Campaign or later?
How long did it take to unify Germany?
What are your relations with other european state's? (I'd assume pretty bad)
Did you start in the 1419 Grand Campaign or later?
How long did it take to unify Germany?
What are your relations with other european state's? (I'd assume pretty bad)
The Grand Campaign
The screenshot below is basically from just before I went to war with Austria and gained 4 German provinces (Bavaria etc). By 1515 I had finished diploannexing my neighbours.
Terrible of course since relations go down with everyone else as soon as you diplo annex someone. Sweden and Genoa are roughly neutral, no one is offering me any alliances.
The possible solution to the Vienna probably is either having a couple more wars with Austria or diploannexing them once they lose their dutch provinces to Spain.
The screenshot below is basically from just before I went to war with Austria and gained 4 German provinces (Bavaria etc). By 1515 I had finished diploannexing my neighbours.
Terrible of course since relations go down with everyone else as soon as you diplo annex someone. Sweden and Genoa are roughly neutral, no one is offering me any alliances.
The possible solution to the Vienna probably is either having a couple more wars with Austria or diploannexing them once they lose their dutch provinces to Spain.
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Lord_Sidious
No Fun At All
I'm playing with Portugal in 1469, I have just annexed castille(with my ally Aragon)
Gelion
Retired Captain
*re-instals the game*
Reno
The Studio Ghibli Fanatic
I'm planning to play as Hungary next. Time for domination over the balkans to begin.
Gelion
Retired Captain
Try Croatia for that 
. I tried that once and reunited all Balkan Slavs by 1600 with good reputation. Now that was a challenge
. I tried that once and reunited all Balkan Slavs by 1600 with good reputation. Now that was a challenge
Reno
The Studio Ghibli Fanatic
I don't like the croats, and besides i all ready managed to create Yugoslavia (1930's border) with Serbia. And now i want to try Hungary.
and besides i all ready managed to create Yugoslavia (1930's border) with Serbia. And now i want to try Hungary.
Reno
The Studio Ghibli Fanatic
My new early game as Portugal (no Hungary this time) whent well and i managed to make peace with Fez, Algeries and Tunisia. From that war i gained a few provinces and 125 gold from each of them plus i got Fez and Tunisia as my vassal. A year later the government in tunisia fell and the Almohads declared indepence in there and i'm currently running them over.
In other new's i have found the tip of florida and i'm starting to colonize it, and in 1428 i had a failed expedition to bring Dahomey or some such nation from the Gold Coast into my glorious nation, but i failed and instead got a lot of tribute as could not bring enough troops in there to hold them coast.
But othervise this game has started well for me.
In other new's i have found the tip of florida and i'm starting to colonize it, and in 1428 i had a failed expedition to bring Dahomey or some such nation from the Gold Coast into my glorious nation, but i failed and instead got a lot of tribute as could not bring enough troops in there to hold them coast.
But othervise this game has started well for me.
Had a game as Byzantium.
The key is still to win a war against the Ottoman empire at the start. Its not too difficult if you let them besiege Morea then place a stack in Macedonia and hope the force is always big enough to stop them from winning and then you need to take over every province, wait for a year and then gain 4 or 5 Ottoman provinces. The problem is doing this without going bankrupt, I went bankrupt twice.
My basic plan was to try and get home provinces either the same religion or same culture so I mainly went west.
The problems I've faced:
I've only ever had one local ally, Wallachia which I eventually annexed although they started a war against Hungary etc, which was interesting.
Potential diplo targets like Serbia tend to be killed off.
After getting a tarnished reputation I had lots of BB wars on both sides.
Venice are gits. They have declared war on me three times so far. During the second war they just refused to sign peace and then brought Poland into the war on their side, fortunately I was pushing towards Venice by then.
Bankrupcy kills armies. Lots of times I would heavily outnumber the opposition and still lose.
Inflation sucks, basically it kills my research guarenteeing that I will struggle to stay in the game.
Odd things about the game, Russia is struggling, Hungary has vassilised Austria who are in the process of destroying Venice and of course there is no Ottoman empire as their eastern neighbours took advantage of their two province status.
The key is still to win a war against the Ottoman empire at the start. Its not too difficult if you let them besiege Morea then place a stack in Macedonia and hope the force is always big enough to stop them from winning and then you need to take over every province, wait for a year and then gain 4 or 5 Ottoman provinces. The problem is doing this without going bankrupt, I went bankrupt twice.
My basic plan was to try and get home provinces either the same religion or same culture so I mainly went west.
The problems I've faced:
I've only ever had one local ally, Wallachia which I eventually annexed although they started a war against Hungary etc, which was interesting.
Potential diplo targets like Serbia tend to be killed off.
After getting a tarnished reputation I had lots of BB wars on both sides.
Venice are gits. They have declared war on me three times so far. During the second war they just refused to sign peace and then brought Poland into the war on their side, fortunately I was pushing towards Venice by then.
Bankrupcy kills armies. Lots of times I would heavily outnumber the opposition and still lose.
Inflation sucks, basically it kills my research guarenteeing that I will struggle to stay in the game.
Odd things about the game, Russia is struggling, Hungary has vassilised Austria who are in the process of destroying Venice and of course there is no Ottoman empire as their eastern neighbours took advantage of their two province status.
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Gelion
Retired Captain
Nice! You are finally trying as Byzantine. By the way the map looks you are doing well.
Some observations:
- In my games Russia is always struggling against the Golden Horde and Poland. It became a rule really and I do not count on it pass Volga.
- I always try to annex the provinces at a rate compatible with my rep. Otherwise I waste a LOT on wars I do not want to win.
Here's a pic of my old game:
You probably saw it before. Here's what I did to start with (and keep a good rep).
1. Sign alliance with Georgia or any other Orthodox state for that comiong war with the Ottomans.
2. Declare war on Maltese Knights and conquer them. Annex the island. Sure your reputation will drop, but Byzantine can afford it as: the province is a national one and rep goes up if your national proinces are owned by somebody else and Byzantine has a lot of that.
3. Fight that war with the Ottomans (I'm sure they will declare war between 1419 and 1420). With 2 allies (or more if your diplomats are good) the Ottomans are beatable. Do not take any land from them or take 1-2 provinces. You need that rep for other places. A good peace treaty without loosing your provinces (Moria or Rhodes) is sufficient.
4. Using your ally Trapezund declare war on the nation that holds Armenia. Win and annex it. You will connect a land bridge to it later.
5. Now you could get Cyprus since it is still an independant state. Sure you have a drop of rep, but if you were not greedy you could afford it.
6. The hint from now on is to win occasional 1-3 proinces from the Ottomans, keep them in check (i.e. from getting bigger than you) and keep expanding your empire at the rate compatible with your reputation.
7. Now if you noticed all 3 "initial" provinces: Rhodes, Cyprus and Moria you have wine. Takes a little time to get to the level where you can build Wine manufactures. With gold in Armenia and 3 manufactures you'll have a lot of gold for future conquests.
In this manner my reputation never went below "poor" or "bad" at some point. By 1700 I unified the Empire with every province having at least 3 level citadel, a manufacture and being Orthodox (except for Cairo cuz thats a pain).
Anyway thats my game
You are finally trying as Byzantine. By the way the map looks you are doing well.Some observations:
- In my games Russia is always struggling against the Golden Horde and Poland. It became a rule really and I do not count on it pass Volga.
- I always try to annex the provinces at a rate compatible with my rep. Otherwise I waste a LOT on wars I do not want to win.
Here's a pic of my old game:
You probably saw it before. Here's what I did to start with (and keep a good rep).
1. Sign alliance with Georgia or any other Orthodox state for that comiong war with the Ottomans.
2. Declare war on Maltese Knights and conquer them. Annex the island. Sure your reputation will drop, but Byzantine can afford it as: the province is a national one and rep goes up if your national proinces are owned by somebody else and Byzantine has a lot of that.
3. Fight that war with the Ottomans (I'm sure they will declare war between 1419 and 1420). With 2 allies (or more if your diplomats are good) the Ottomans are beatable. Do not take any land from them or take 1-2 provinces. You need that rep for other places. A good peace treaty without loosing your provinces (Moria or Rhodes) is sufficient.
4. Using your ally Trapezund declare war on the nation that holds Armenia. Win and annex it. You will connect a land bridge to it later.
5. Now you could get Cyprus since it is still an independant state. Sure you have a drop of rep, but if you were not greedy you could afford it.
6. The hint from now on is to win occasional 1-3 proinces from the Ottomans, keep them in check (i.e. from getting bigger than you) and keep expanding your empire at the rate compatible with your reputation.
7. Now if you noticed all 3 "initial" provinces: Rhodes, Cyprus and Moria you have wine. Takes a little time to get to the level where you can build Wine manufactures. With gold in Armenia and 3 manufactures you'll have a lot of gold for future conquests.
In this manner my reputation never went below "poor" or "bad" at some point. By 1700 I unified the Empire with every province having at least 3 level citadel, a manufacture and being Orthodox (except for Cairo cuz thats a pain).
Anyway thats my game
Reno
The Studio Ghibli Fanatic
Me "new" early game as Japan (Nippon) whent quiet at first until i gained a casus belli towards Korea and their ally China through an event. At first Korea was a push over but for some reason i could not annex them.
So after i had finished korea i whent after china naval battles were easy and i occupied Hainan with almost no resistance but they would not sign peace with me so i had to risk almost all of my armies in making a landing into mainland china,
lucky for me before their +70 thousand large army managed to get over to my landing force, Manchuria declared a war with china and a minor peasant rebellion started near tibet.
so i managed to capture Macao and Hong Kong and got peace were they China gave me Hainan and Hong Kong, plus i signed a peace with korea making them my vassal and themn giving me 100 gold tribute.
Othervise nothing else happend except for me to exchange maps with europeans.
So after i had finished korea i whent after china naval battles were easy and i occupied Hainan with almost no resistance but they would not sign peace with me so i had to risk almost all of my armies in making a landing into mainland china,
lucky for me before their +70 thousand large army managed to get over to my landing force, Manchuria declared a war with china and a minor peasant rebellion started near tibet.
so i managed to capture Macao and Hong Kong and got peace were they China gave me Hainan and Hong Kong, plus i signed a peace with korea making them my vassal and themn giving me 100 gold tribute.
Othervise nothing else happend except for me to exchange maps with europeans.
