European gas supplies disrupted

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European gas supplies disrupted

Several European countries say their supplies of Russian gas have been cut sharply amid an energy price dispute between Moscow and Ukraine.

Turkey said all its gas supplies via Ukraine had been cut. Romania reported a 75% reduction. Bulgaria, Greece and Macedonia are also seeing shortfalls.

The Russian energy giant Gazprom says Ukraine has shut down three of the four pipelines for EU-bound Russian gas.

The European Commission says the supply cut is "completely unacceptable".

Spoiler :
The EU depends on Russia for about a quarter of its total gas supplies, some 80% of which is pumped through Ukraine.

Ukraine's main energy company, Naftogaz, says talks with Gazprom aimed at resolving the crisis are due to resume in Moscow on Thursday. Naftogaz chairman Oleh Dubyna made the announcement, but it has not yet been confirmed by Gazprom.

Russia stopped supplying gas to Ukraine on New Year's Day in a row about unpaid bills. The row comes amid a cold snap across Europe likely to push up demand for gas.

Gazprom accuses Ukraine of an "unprecedented" shutdown of transit pipelines. It says only 40m cubic metres of gas is getting through to Europe, instead of 225m cu m.

Slovakia says it will declare a state of emergency over the drop in gas supplies, though it aims to prevent the shortage hurting key public services and ordinary consumers.

The Austrian energy company OMV said it would now have to tap into its gas reserves after its supply fell to 10% of the expected level.

Bulgaria, almost wholly dependent on Russian gas via Ukraine, says it has sufficient supplies for just a few days. It says no more gas is flowing through a pipeline that also supplies Turkey, Macedonia and Greece.

Gazprom decided to cut exports through Ukrainian pipelines by a fifth in a row over unpaid bills.

Wide impact

Early on Tuesday, Ukraine's Naftogaz said Russia had cut gas transit supplies by more than two-thirds and listed nine countries, including Germany, Poland, and Hungary which would receive reduced supplies as a result.

"Naftogaz of Ukraine considers that in such a case if European users receive less volumes of natural gas, all claims of the noted countries must be directed to Gazprom," said a statement on the company's website.

Russian gas supplies to Turkey via Ukraine have been completely cut, the Turkish government said.

The Turkish government announced it was increasing the flow through an alternative pipeline, under the Black Sea, to compensate.

Turkey gets about 65% of its gas from Russia and about one-third of its daily supply has now been cut, the BBC's Sarah Rainsford reports. But the government says it has sufficient gas stocks to avoid immediate economic hardship.

Czech supplies also fell significantly overnight, and Croatia, which imports 40% of its gas, said supply of Russian gas via Ukraine had completely halted.

EU deplores quarrel

In a statement on Tuesday, a European Commission spokesman said that "without prior warning and in clear contradiction with the reassurances given by the highest Russian and Ukrainian authorities to the European Union, gas supplies to some EU member states have been substantially cut - this situation is completely unacceptable".

"The Czech EU presidency and the European Commission demand that gas supplies be restored immediately to the EU and that the two parties resume negotiations at once with a view to a definitive settlement of their bilateral commercial dispute."

The new EU member states in Central and Eastern Europe are heavily - and in some cases entirely - dependent on Russian gas imports. Yet Germany and Italy together account for nearly half of the Russian gas consumed in the EU.

German Economy Minister Michael Glos called on Russia and Ukraine to resume talks, and is due to hold talks with senior Gazprom officials later on Tuesday.

But he said Germany could cope with any shortages. "Gas storage sites are full. And Germany gets its gas from different sources, for example from Norway or the Netherlands. Supplies from there could be increased," he said.

Many other countries are now tapping strategic reserves, built up to cope with just such a development, says the BBC's Europe correspondent Nick Thorpe.

Gazprom has promised to pump extra supplies through other pipelines - the Yamal from Arctic Russia through Belarus to Germany, and the Blue Stream to Turkey under the Black Sea.

'Gas stolen'

The move to reduce supplies going through the Ukraine by a fifth came after Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin held talks with Gazprom CEO Alexei Miller.

Mr Miller recommended that deliveries via Ukraine should be reduced "by the amount stolen by Ukraine, that is 65.3 million cubic metres of gas".

Ukraine has denied stealing gas, saying technical problems are disrupting the onward flow of gas to Europe.

The row between Russia and Ukraine has been simmering for weeks. Gazprom says Ukraine owes it more than $600m (£413m); Ukraine says it has paid its debt. The two sides have also failed to agree on the price Ukraine should pay for gas in 2009.

A similar row between Gazprom and Ukraine at the beginning of 2006 led to gas shortages in several EU countries.

EU officials have been meeting in Brussels to discuss the dispute and a delegation has also been sent for talks with both Ukrainian and Gazprom officials.

Gazprom wants Ukraine to pay $450 per 1,000 cu m of gas - more than double what Kiev says it is willing to pay, yet still less than what most EU states pay.
 
i see. kind of deserves it's own thread though...

how far will the involved sides take this?
will the eu pressure russia into selling its gas cheaper to ukraine or ukraine into paying the bill to russia and start to run the pipelines again?
could this even lead to military interventions?
 
i see. kind of deserves it's own thread though...

how far will the involved sides take this?
will the eu pressure russia into selling its gas cheaper to ukraine or ukraine into paying the bill to russia and start to run the pipelines again?
could this even lead to military interventions?

German forces are already being transported to the Polish-SovietRussian borders. The operation "Guderian" is about to commence soon :mischief:
 
Why pressure them to get gas to the EU? Just start spending the money on better energy sources.
 
I understand why the EU is ticked, but on the other hand, when you rely so heavily on one supplier, you shouldn't act all surprised when you realized he's got your balls in his hands.
 
I understand why the EU is ticked, but on the other hand, when you rely so heavily on one supplier, you shouldn't act all surprised when you realized he's got your balls in his hands.
what he said. I really can't understand why so many nations never diversified there energy suppliers. Relying on one supplier alone (even if he's your best friend) is pure folly.
 
Dissolve Ukraine already. I'm sick of the same crap every year.
 
How dare the Ukraine Do Anything Like This With their Territory!

we Are Europeans!!!
 
I understand why the EU is ticked, but on the other hand, when you rely so heavily on one supplier, you shouldn't act all surprised when you realized he's got your balls in his hands.
I am sure this was Russian intent to pressure Ukraine into stopping gas transfer. Hold on, I will come up with a reason.
 
Uhm, so far it seems that Russia is to blame for this.

Many EU countries report 80+% decrease. Even if Ukraine was stealing a lot of gas, they couldn't steal most of what's going to Central/Western/Southern Europe. Clearly it's Gazprom who isn't sending the gas.
 
Uhm, so far it seems that Russia is to blame for this.

Many EU countries report 80+% decrease. Even if Ukraine was stealing a lot of gas, they couldn't steal most of what's going to Central/Western/Southern Europe. Clearly it's Gazprom who isn't sending the gas.

come on. you dont know that, I dont know that, no one does as yet.
 
Last news from Gazprom say that the company decreased gas flow from 130 mil cubic meters / day to 64.7 because at the previous days Ukraine stole 65.3 mil, so Ukraine have to cover rest to compensate stolen goods. So that make sense - if they stole half before, now they will have to get everything to cover Ukraine's needs.
 
So basically, Russia cut Ukrainian (90/390, IIRC) gas and Ukraine took 90 out of "Europe's" (I guess Greece is) supply.

Part of me says "Hey! The Ukraine had contracts with those other countries!"

And the other part says "Screw everyone, they're sovereign and this is a national security issue".
 
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