European politicians having another go at censhorship?

[innonimatu]

Web search for bomb recipes should be blocked

Internet providers should also prevent access to any site giving instructions on how to make a bomb, EU Justice and Security Commissioner Franco Frattini said in an interview.

"I do intend to carry out a clear exploring exercise with the private sector ... on how it is possible to use technology to prevent people from using or searching dangerous words like bomb, kill, genocide or terrorism," Frattini told Reuters.

Frattini is a nutcase appointed by Berlusconi, but even so one would expect an european commissioner to have some intelligence, and understand that his proposal was next to impossible without large scale censorship. Or perhaps he really wants that.

Perhaps it's just me, but I'm really getting the impression that european politicians are very fond of censorship.

 

[skadistic]

Blocking "how tos" on bomb biulding isn't all that bad but blocking kill, genocide or terrorism is way past sanity.

 

[JohnRM]

Europe is going to head slowly, but surely toward a police state over the coming decades. Just how far it gets before people throw off this abuse of power is anyone's guess, but there it is.

 

[Elrohir]

So if you google "quotes condemning Nazi genocide" under this guys plan you'd get blocked because you used the word genocide?

That's mind-bogglingly stupid.

 

[Godwynn]

It is pointless legislation.

Outlawing 'How To's' are just as effective as Gun Laws in America.

 

[Fugitive Sisyphus]

It is all very logical. If you don't want to blow something up, why would you need to research about bombs and bomb making? Obviously this is an unnecessary freedom that should be gotten rid of for the common good.

Spoiler :

Playing devil's advocate is making me sick to the stomach

 

[Bill3000]

How stupid.

The internet should never be censored.

 

[JohnRM]

It is all very logical. If you don't want to blow something up, why would you need to research about bombs and bomb making? Obviously this is an unnecessary freedom that should be gotten rid of for the common good.

Spoiler :

Playing devil's advocate is making me sick to the stomach

Unless, of course, you need to blow a tree stump out of the ground, or blast boulder on your land so that it can be moved without having to pay thousands of dollars to get someone else to do it. Then it becomes quite necessary, but no matter. The governments of this world have treated the people as children for decades and will continue to do so in the future, with perhaps more effort.

 

[The Yankee]

Blocking "how tos" on bomb biulding isn't all that bad but blocking kill, genocide or terrorism is way past sanity.

I agree. Fully.

 

[The Yankee]

It is pointless legislation.

Outlawing 'How To's' are just as effective as Gun Laws in America.

Because it's not as if someone could just mess with a computer or get someone outside of the country to just print the darn thing. Right, guys?


.....Guys? [tumbleweed]

 

[JohnRM]

We don't seem to have a significant problem with individuals learning bomb-making over the internet and blowing up themselves, others, and/or property. The most significant problem that we have with bombs and explosives has been brought to us by terrorists and they generally don't rely on the internet to learn how to do that.

 

[cubsfan6506]

I support blocking how to make bombs.

 

[Godwynn]

Because it's not as if someone could just mess with a computer or get someone outside of the country to just print the darn thing. Right, guys?


.....Guys? [tumbleweed]

Drive to Canada and use some internet cafe's internet.

Just ask an employee of Lockheed-Martin.

 

[The Yankee]

Drive to Canada and use some internet cafe's internet.

Just ask an employee of Lockheed-Martin.

Precisely. If they can operate as though borders were a foreign (pun entirely intended) concept, then what point does it do with such a ban that will only apply to Joe Blow?

Especially since the costs of such cross-border information transferring is insanely cheaper than it used to be.

 

[Godwynn]

Precisely. If they can operate as though borders were a foreign (pun entirely intended) concept, then what point does it do with such a ban that will only apply to Joe Blow?

Especially since the costs of such cross-border information transferring is insanely cheaper than it used to be.

I also imagine that they would not be able to monitor e-mails entirely either. I believe that is insanely cheap.

 

[Japanrocks12]

Blocking "how tos" on bomb biulding isn't all that bad but blocking kill, genocide or terrorism is way past sanity.

yeah this about sums it up.

 

[ArneHD]

Europe is going to head slowly, but surely toward a police state over the coming decades. Just how far it gets before people throw off this abuse of power is anyone's guess, but there it is.

And the US is going to become a vast, fascist state. Neither is likely to happen. Well, apart from in Russia.

 

[Riffraff]

I very much doubt this legislation is gonna pass. Sofar the EP (which ratisfies it right?) has been quite good at legislation within the IT section.

 

[Verbose]

Frattini is a tool, since Berlusconi is a tool.

There are things to be said about the dysfunction of aspects of Italian politics, but let's suffice it to say that Frattini is probably representatively "European" only in the purely geographic sense.

 

[Masquerouge]

Agree with Verbose. This guy is a jackass.

One day the new politicians will understand how the intratubes work, one day politicians will have played video games when they were kids, and on that glorious day, my friends, we will fully agree with them when they'll talk about banning the things that our kids will do.