Even more religions for RoM

[Dancing Hoskuld]

I have been pillaging the EusebiusWorldReligion-Revival mod for religions, especially those asked for about the place. Unfortunately they are not quite up to what we would expect in RoM If yo already have my mod installed install these into the DancingHoskuld/Custom_Religion folder. If you don't have my mod then create the folder DancingHoskuld/Custom_Religion and put these in.

Update July 2011 - after pillaging the Total War mod and others I now have almost everything needed to make these religions match the standard religions in detail. I just need to make them a bit more unique.

Are there any people out there who can help?

So far I have found and am testing (in alphabetical order):-

• Bahai - OK
• Jainism - OK
• Masons not a religion they are a gentleman's club/secretive society.
• Mormon - needs some better graphics
• Sikh - to be loaded..

For RoM they need:-

• founding tech
• one or more unique religion wonders

They need also need:-

• sounds
• founding movies
• unique missionary unit
• missionary effect - the symbol that floats above their head when they try to spread their religion

 

[Arkenor]

Not sure Masonry would really work as a Civ religion. Isn't it kind of tied up into Christianity anyway? It might work better as an add on for that, or possibly even as a guild/corporation.

Does the mod you're pillaging have anything for the Orthodox branch of Christianity? Whenever the Byzantines turn up in my game, I always wish I could assign that to them. The Phoenician religion followed by Carthage would also be awesome.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Not sure Masonry would really work as a Civ religion. Isn't it kind of tied up into Christianity anyway? It might work better as an add on for that, or possibly even as a guild/corporation.

Does the mod you're pillaging have anything for the Orthodox branch of Christianity? Whenever the Byzantines turn up in my game, I always wish I could assign that to them. The Phoenician religion followed by Carthage would also be awesome.

I am not doing Freemasonry as a religion at all. I am doing it as a gentleman's club, which sort of matches its development and spread. First someone creates the "Society of Freemasons" which is a project then anyone can build Lodges. When you have enough you can build the Grand Lodge (NW). From what little I know, Freemasonry is tied to monotheism not Christianity in particular. because they are a secretive society I thought they would be a good earlier set of spy related buildings.

As to other religions I am just pillaging a few from various places based on requests. However they will not become part of my mod if I can't get them up to speed. Ie all the stuff I mentioned in the first post. At the moment none of those I have posted come up to the minimum level needed for inclusion.

And yes the source mod has lots on different "cults" within the various major religious groups. As does Rapture another good source. However the basic mechanism in RoM is not suited to such factioning and I don't think I am up to writing it.

 

[Camber]

I'm on board. Really glad to hear you have some stuff on Sikhism; they are one of my favorites to study. They have about 13mil adherents, about the same as Mormonism.

I have started putting together stuff for Mormonism, since it is the one I am most familiar with. I would propose the corporation-spreading unit (executive) as the missionary, made into a 2-person multi-unit.

Are you okay with having any Civics, Resources, and/or Events that go along with these religions? Mormonism has some specific predictions about how the "end times" will go down, that could make an interesting optional victory condition also (building "Zion" as a world project).

 

[Camber]

Before the file gets too overworked (I could tweak these endlessly, and they are nowhere near complete), here are my current proposed buildings, units, events, and civics associated with Mormonism.

Spoiler :

Mormonism (Latter Day Saints or LDS)
World religion
• founding tech: Representative Democracy
• founding grants a missionary unit (Mormon Elders)
• Holy City Shrine: Hill Cumorah Pageant
• “Temple”: LDS Meetinghouse
• “Cathedral”: LDS Temple
• “Monastery”: Missionary Training Center (National wonder), School of the Prophets
• building: Bishop’s Storehouse
• Great wonders: Temple Square, Opening Cumorah
• National wonders: Missionary Training Center, LDS Church HQ, Flooding the Earth
• -philic resources: Standard Works, Lost Scriptures, Millennial Fervor (all provided by new buildings)
• -phobic resources: Alcohol, Wine, Coffee, Tea, Tobacco, Hemp

Mormon Elders
Missionary unit for Mormonism
• use Corporation-spreading unit graphic (made into a 2-person multi-unit)
• 2x normal cost for a missionary unit (compared to other religions)
• double production speed with Standard Works
• can spread religion
• can hurry production (service missionary, gives small amount of hammers)

LDS Meetinghouse
“Temple” for Mormonism
• use Revivalist Church icon & graphic
• has same effects of equivalent building for other religions
+happiness from Lost Scripture
+unhappiness from Alcohol, Wine, Coffee, Tea, Tobacco, Hemp
+health from Standard Works
+happiness from Standard Works
• allows construction of Bishop’s Storehouse
• requires Mormonism be present in the city

Bishop’s Storehouse
Building for Mormonism
• stores 20% of food after growth
+happiness with Prophets, Theodemocracy civics
+2 health with United Order, Polygamist civics
• requires LDS Meetinghouse
• requires Mormonism be present in the city

LDS Temple
“Cathedral” for Mormonism
• use Christian Cathedral icon & graphic
• has same effects of equivalent building for other religions
+unhappiness from Alcohol, Wine, Coffee, Tea, Tobacco, Hemp
+health from Standard Works
+happiness from Standard Works
• +10% construction speed with Stone, Marble, Steel, Standard Works
• requires Mormonism be present in the city

Missionary Training Center (MTC)
“Monastery” for Mormonism
• National wonder
• produces Mormon Elders unit every 5 turns
• additional missionaries can also be built
• use a civic building icon & Construction Firm graphic
• gives 1 great prophet point, 2 culture per turn
• +10% construction speed with Steel, Standard Works
• requires LDS Temple
• no state religion requirement
• requires Mormonism be present in the city

Hill Cumorah Pageant
Holy City “Shrine” for Mormonism
• can only be built by a Great Prophet
• gives 1 great artist point, 2 culture per turn
• allows construction of Opening Cumorah wonder
• requires Mormonism be present in the city

Opening Cumorah
Great wonder
• can be built by a Great Prophet
• gives 2 great prophet points, 3 culture per turn
+100% research
• provides 5 sources of Lost Scripture resource
• requires city have access to Millennial Fervor resource
• requires Mormonism be present in the city

Temple Square
Great wonder
• gives 2 great prophet points, 3 culture per turn
• provides 2 gold per city with Mormonism
• provides 5 sources of Standard Works resource
(LDS scriptures)
+happiness from Lost Scripture
+unhappiness from Alcohol, Wine, Coffee, Tea, Tobacco, Hemp
+unhappiness with Atheism, Socialism
• requires LDS Temple
• no state religion requirement
• requires Mormonism be present in the city

Standard Works
Resource (represents LDS scriptures)
• provided by Temple Square
• provided by Flooding the Earth
+2 unhappiness (to represent the clash that Mormonism tends to have with established religions. This effect is partially counteracted by LDS buildings that have a +1 happiness effect for Standard Works).

LDS Church HQ
Great wonder
• gives 1 great merchant point, 2 culture per turn
• provides 1 gold per Mormonism building
• allows 1 merchant
+10% gold from Lost Scripture
+20% gold from Millennial Fervor
+unhappiness with Atheism, Socialism
• requires 5 LDS Temples
• no state religion requirement
• requires Mormonism be present in the city

Flooding the Earth
National Wonder
• can be built by a Great Prophet
• gives 1 great prophet point, 1 culture per turn
• provides 5 additional sources of Standard Works
• requires LDS Temple
• no state religion requirement
• requires Mormonism be present in the city

Lost Tribe Returns
Random Event
• One of the “Lost 10 Tribes of Israel” returns, an event foretold in most Judeo-Christian religions.
• cannot be triggered until Mormonism has been founded, small chance per turn
o (default option): This means nothing to us. It’s probably a hoax.
o Jewish Temple in city: +2 population in this city, receive Lost Tribe unit in this city
o Christian Church in city: +2 population in this city, receive Lost Tribe unit in this city
o LDS Meetinghouse in city: +2 population in this city, receive Lost Tribe unit in this city

Lost Tribe
Special missionary unit received by random event
• use icon & graphic for Treasure unit
• can be used to build Lost Tribe Archive building
• [or] can spread Judaism to city

Lost Tribe Archive
Special Building, cannot be built except by special unit
• built by Lost Tribe unit
• gives 2 great prophet points, 3 culture per turn
+15% research
+3 happiness if state religion is Judaism
• provides 5 sources of Lost Scripture
• no religion requirement (not Mormonism-dependent)

Lost Scripture
Resource
• provided by Lost Tribe Archive
• provided by Opening Cumorah
+1 gold

Last Days
Random Event
Cannot be triggered until Mormonism has been founded, small chance per turn
• chance of occurrence increases with global warming
o (default option): -2 population in all cities; -2 health in all cities, +2 unhappiness in all cities for 3-5 turns.
o Jewish Temple in city: -2 population in all cities, chance to receive Messianic Advent in city.
o Christian Church in city: -2 population in all cities, chance to receive Messianic Advent in city.
o LDS Temple in city: -2 population in all cities, chance to receive Messianic Coming in city
o Islamic Mosque in city: -2 population in all cities, chance to receive Messianic Advent in city
o United Order Civic: -1 population in all cities, greater chance to receive Messianic Advent in city, receive 1 Great Prophet
o Lost Scripture in city: -1 population in all cities, greater chance to receive Messianic Advent in city, receive 1 Great Prophet

Messianic Advent
Special Building, cannot be built
• Can only be received by event: Last Days
• gives 2 great prophet points, 10 culture
• reduces maintenance of nearby cities
+happiness, health in all cities
+100% war weariness
+happiness with Prophets, State Church, Free Church, Secular
+unhappiness with Atheism, Socialism
• provides 10 sources of Messianic Fervor resource
• upgrades terrain in all plots (get code from Genesis project in Fall from Heaven mod)
• reduces global warming substantially (-50%?)
NOTE: These last two effects I would consider "controversial": they represent the effects that some religions believe would occur if their anticipated Messiah were to arrive, but which other religions would see as unfair representation in the mod (since no other religions are given supernatural events). To keep it neutral, it would probably best to not have supernatural effects, and just give effects that could be real even if the "Messianic Advent" was a hoax that never got disproved.
• no religion requirement (not Mormonism-dependent)

Millennial Fervor
Resource
• provided by Messianic Advent
+happiness
• required to build Zion world project
• required to build Messianic Age

Messianic Age
Building
+5 happiness
+100% war weariness
• requires city have access to Millennial Fervor resource
• no religion requirement (not Mormonism-dependent)

Zion
World Project
• reduces maintenance of nearby cities
+100% great person points
+100% culture
+25% research
+15% production
• free Messianic Age building in all cities
+10 food
+3 happiness with Prophets, Theodemocracy
+unhappiness with Atheism, Socialism
• requires city have access to Millennial Fervor resource
• +10% construction speed with Marble, Gold, Silver, Gems, Pearls
• may be coded as a victory condition (with voting privileges, like an Apostolic Palace or UN?)
• no religion requirement (not Mormonism-dependent)

Polygamist
Society Civic
• requires Slavery
• cities require 25% less food to grow
+unhappiness from Christian Church, Revivalist Church
+unhappiness in all cities
+10% war weariness
+health from Bishop’s Storehouse
• damages relations with all other Civs (more damage the more progressive they are)
• allows construction of School of the Prophets building for Mormonism (with Prophets)

United Order
Financial Civic
• requires Representative Democracy
+10% great person birth rate
• reduces maintenance cost of number of cities
• reduces maintenance cost of distance to palace
• increases local unrest
• decreases national unrest
• disables Inquisitions
+3 health per city (from taking care of the poor)
+health from Bishop’s Storehouse
+happiness from LDS Meetinghouse, LDS Temple, MTC, Hill Cumorah Pageant, Opening Cumorah, Temple Square, Conference Center, Lost Tribe Archive
+5 happiness from Millennial Fervor
+unhappiness from (i.e., Sacrificial Altar, Slave Market, Brewery, Brothel, Gambling House, Casino, Abortion Clinic, Cloning Laboratory, Cloning Factory, Body Exchange Clinic), Revivalist Church
+25% war weariness
• damages relations with all other Civs

Theodemocracy
Government Civic
• requires Representative Democracy
+10% great person birth rate
• unlimited Priests
• decreases local unrest
• decreases national unrest
+3 unhappiness per city
+2 happiness per Temple- and Cathedral-type building for all religions
+happiness from Bishop’s Storehouse
+unhappiness from “vice” buildings (i.e., Sacrificial Altar, Slave Market, Brewery, Brothel, Gambling House, Casino, Abortion Clinic, Cloning Laboratory, Cloning Factory, Body Exchange Clinic)
+1 culture per specialist
• damages relations with all other Civs

Moralism
Ideology Civic
• requires Fundamentalism
• decreases local unrest
• decreases national unrest
+unhappiness from “vice” buildings (i.e., Abortion Clinic, Arena, Auxiliary Body Exchange, Bandit’s Hideout, Bioenhancement Center, Biological Warfare Lab, Body Exchange Clinic, Brewery, Brothel, Casino, Cloning Factory, Cloning Laboratory, Colosseum, Factory, Fighting Pit, Gambling Hall, Industrial Park, Missile Lab, Nuclear Silo, Sacrificial Altar, Slave Market)
+happiness from “anti-vice” buildings (i.e., AI Surveillance, Dungeon, Foundling Hospital, Interrogation Building, Jail, Labor Union, Mind-Control Center, Police Station, Reeducation Center, Revivalist Church, Seminary, Social Justice Organization, Social Services, Universal Church, Welfare Office)
+unhappiness with Hit Movies, Hit Musicals, Hit Singles, Alcohol, Tobacco, Hemp, Smart Drugs
+happiness from Revivalist Church, Apostolic Palace, all holy city shrines.

School of the Prophets
Civic-enabled building (with Polygamist)
• gives 2 great prophet points, 2 culture
• requires LDS Temple
+10% research
• +10% research from Standard Works, Lost Scripture
• allows construction of Mormon Elders unit
• requires Mormonism be present in the city

Here are a few other things I would propose, that aren't dependent on the Mormonism religion (nor visa versa):

Spoiler :

Abortion Clinic
City building
• Requires Modern Health Care
• stores -25% of food after growth
+gold with Objectivism
-gold with Socialism
+happiness with Progressivism
+health from Smart Medicine
+health with Socialism
+unhappiness with Prophets, State Church, Free Church, Intolerant, United Order, Theodemocracy

Change to Secular:
• cities require 10% more food to grow

Change to Atheism:
• cities require 15% more food to grow

Change to Objectivism:
+gold from “vice” buildings (i.e., Abortion Clinic, Arena, Auxiliary Body Exchange, Bandit’s Hideout, Bioenhancement Center, Biological Warfare Lab, Body Exchange Clinic, Brewery, Brothel, Casino, Cloning Factory, Cloning Laboratory, Colosseum, Factory, Fighting Pit, Gambling Hall, Industrial Park, Missile Lab, Nuclear Silo, Sacrificial Altar, Slave Market)
+unhealthiness from “vice” buildings (i.e., Abortion Clinic, Arena, Auxiliary Body Exchange, Bandit’s Hideout, Bioenhancement Center, Biological Warfare Lab, Body Exchange Clinic, Brewery, Brothel, Casino, Cloning Factory, Cloning Laboratory, Colosseum, Factory, Fighting Pit, Gambling Hall, Industrial Park, Missile Lab, Nuclear Silo, Sacrificial Altar, Slave Market)
+spy point from “anti-vice” buildings (AI Surveillance, Dungeon, Foundling Hospital, Interrogation Building, Jail, Labor Union, Mind-Control Center, Police Station, Reeducation Center, Revivalist Church, Seminary, Social Justice Organization, Social Services, Universal Church, Welfare Office)

Change to Individualism:
+happiness from some “vice” buildings (i.e., Abortion Clinic, Arena, Auxiliary Body Exchange, Bioenhancement Center, Body Exchange Clinic, Brewery, Brothel, Casino, Cloning Factory, Cloning Laboratory, Colosseum, Fighting Pit, Gambling Hall)

Change to Free Enterprise:
+gold from some “vice” buildings (i.e., Abortion Clinic, Arena, Auxiliary Body Exchange, Bioenhancement Center, Biological Warfare Lab, Body Exchange Clinic, Brewery, Brothel, Casino, Cloning Factory, Cloning Laboratory, Colosseum, Factory, Fighting Pit, Gambling Hall, Industrial Park, Missile Lab, Nuclear Silo, Sacrificial Altar, Slave Market)

Centrism:
• no change

Change to Egalitarianism:
• cities require 10% more food to grow
+unhappiness from some “vice” buildings (i.e., Bandit’s Hideout, Brothel, Colosseum, Fighting Pit, Sacrificial Altar, Slave Market)
+happiness from some “anti-vice” buildings (i.e., Foundling Hospital, Labor Union, Social Justice Organization, Social Services, Universal Church, Welfare Office)

Change to Progressivism:
• cities require 15% more food to grow
+2 unhappiness from some “vice” buildings (Arena, Bioenhancement Center, Brothel, Colosseum, Factory, Fighting Pit, Gambling Hall, Industrial Park, Missile Lab, Nuclear Silo, Sacrificial Altar, Slave Market)
+unhappiness from some “anti-vice” buildings (i.e., Dungeon, Interrogation Building, Jail, Mind-Control Center, Police Station, Reeducation Center, Revivalist Church, Seminary)
+happiness from some “vice” buildings (i.e., Abortion Clinic, Brewery, Bioenhancement Center, Body Exchange Clinic, Casino, Cloning Factory, Cloning Laboratory, Gambling Hall)
+happiness from some “anti-vice” buildings (i.e., Foundling Hospital, Labor Union, Social Justice Organization, Social Services, Universal Church, Welfare Office)
+unhappiness from Ammunition, Coal, Cow, Deer, Fur, Ivory, Oil, Pig, Uranium, Whales
+happiness from Biofuels, Geothermal Energy

Change to Socialism:
• cities require 20% more food to grow
+health from some “vice” buildings (i.e., Abortion Clinic, Bioenhancement Center, Body Exchange Clinic, Cloning Factory, Cloning Laboratory)
-gold from some “vice” buildings (i.e., Abortion Clinic, Factory, Casino, Gambling Hall, Industrial Park, Slave Market)
+spy point from “anti-vice” buildings (AI Surveillance, Dungeon, Foundling Hospital, Interrogation Building, Jail, Labor Union, Mind-Control Center, Police Station, Reeducation Center, Revivalist Church, Seminary, Social Justice Organization, Social Services, Universal Church, Welfare Office)

Change to Shipyard:
• builds wooden ships 20% faster with Hemp
(Hemp was used to make ropes for sea-going vessels)

I'm attaching OVERLY LONG Civilopedia entries for each of these--I figure too much information is fine in the planning stage; these can be edited down when we're sure which ones will be included.

 

[Arakhor]

Mormons are Christians, aren't they? I dislike adding in sub-denominations.

 

[Camber]

It depends. They say that they are, but then they also say that they aren't related to any of the existing Christian denominations, and that they didn't even come from any of them, but instead are a completely new animal (new DNA, not from existing stock, you might say, since they say that they were founded by divine messengers calling a new prophet, just as Moses was.

There is also the problem of a lot of mainstream Christian denominations saying that Mormons aren't Christians. Frankly, I don't care about what their detractors say. But the logic is that they are different enough from the rest to warrant inclusion as a new world religion.

 

[wilson6907]

I know that Mormons are Christian, I mean look at Glenn Beck. I just went to his 8.28 rally in DC and it was incredible, very diverse crowds of people. (500,000 people) It was like a big sermon very Godly atmosphere. I'm a non-denominational christian I know that as long as they believe Christ died and rose on the third day, they are my brother en in faith.

 

[Camber]

That's very cool; my wife and I wanted to go to his rally, but she has been very ill for the last week. Is it true that the Mormon Tabernacle Choir sang at it? I wish we could have been there. I think Bill O'Riley said something silly like, if there are more than 100,000 there, he would quit his show. I can't wait to see how that plays out

I'm not saying that Mormons aren't the same as Christians because I'm against them. I'm actually one myself. But the argument is that they are as different from Christianity as Christianity is from Judaism. It could be said that Christianity is just a branch of Judaism, having the same God, the same basic commandments, the same prophets in common. But Judaism rejected the new scripture, new prophetic authority, and new doctrine that was added by Jesus and his apostles. In the same way, Mormonism is rejected very firmly by much of Christianity because of its use of new scripture, its claims of new prophetic authority, and the new doctrines that have been added.

 

[wilson6907]

Donations topped out at 5.1 million dollars for "Wounded Warriors Foundation" America is a judeo-christian country, which makes Jews and Christians walk hand in hand. I don't think it was his choir it was Alveda King's congregation (Dr. King's Niece) truly inspirational should have came brother! Oh yeah Beck will probably never quit his show, he will be around till he goes blind (I pray to God he gets better though, He is America's voice) even if you hate him 90 percent of the time he has been right about Obama's true intentions of what he wants to "Fundamentally transform our country." into

That's very cool; my wife and I wanted to go to his rally, but she has been very ill for the last week. Is it true that the Mormon Tabernacle Choir sang at it? I wish we could have been there. I think Bill O'Riley said something silly like, if there are more than 100,000 there, he would quit his show. I can't wait to see how that plays out

I'm not saying that Mormons aren't the same as Christians because I'm against them. I'm actually one myself. But the argument is that they are as different from Christianity as Christianity is from Judaism. It could be said that Christianity is just a branch of Judaism, having the same God, the same basic commandments, the same prophets in common. But Judaism rejected the new scripture, new prophetic authority, and new doctrine that was added by Jesus and his apostles. In the same way, Mormonism is rejected very firmly by much of Christianity because of its use of new scripture, its claims of new prophetic authority, and the new doctrines that have been added.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

A preliminary version of Bahai is now available in the first post. It is almost all from the Rapture (WoC lite) mod.

Before the file gets too overworked (I could tweak these endlessly, and they are nowhere near complete), here are my current proposed buildings, units, events, and civics associated with Mormonism.

I'm attaching OVERLY LONG Civilopedia entries for each of these--I figure too much information is fine in the planning stage; these can be edited down when we're sure which ones will be included.

I still need to read this in depth but my initial concern is that if two nations are Mormon can they have access to a balanced national wonders/resources. Basically "a level playing field".

Suggestion:-
Change to Shipyard:
• builds wooden ship units 20% faster with Hemp
(Hemp was used to make ropes for sea-going vessels)

 

[Camber]

Good question (on balance). If two civs have Mormonism:

1. Lost Scripture

1a. The founder might get 5 Ancient Scripture resources later on (after Messianic Advent event, if he trades with whoever got the event, or if he got the event himself) when he builds Opening Cumorah

1b. There is another way that someone could get Ancient Scripture, though: by getting the Lost Tribe Returns event. So if the two Mormonism-interested civs aren't friendly, they could still possibly have access to the Lost Scripture resource.

1c. Lost Scripture isn't required to build anything. It gives extra happiness with some Mormonism buildings, extra research or gold with others. So if for some reason someone wants to utilize Mormonism but doesn't ever get access to it, he will still be fine.

2. Standard Works

2a. Whoever builds Temple Square first will have 5 sources of it.

2b. Whoever builds Temple Square will also have a chance to build the wonder that gives 20 additional sources of it (a big number, but you want enough to be able to give it to everyone).

2c. Your point about needing balance if there is more than 1 civ who wants to pursue Mormonism is important. I hadn't considered the need for this, since Mormonism is highly centralized. But I looked into the issue, and the LDS Church publishes a lot of its scriptures in countries where they will be utilized. So it would make sense (and give better balance) to let Flooding the Earth be a national wonder, just require an LDS Temple in the city, rather than Temple Square, and only provide 5 sources of Standard Works (it could be fewer, if you think necessary).

2d. Standard Works isn't required to build anything, it just makes Mormonism more effective (greater happiness, faster build on a few things). Conversely, I have suggested that its normal effect be to give unhappiness, so that it has a negative effect unless you build the Mormonism buildings that get happiness from it.

3. I eliminated the LDS Conference Center, and instead made an LDS Church HQ wonder that gives money for every Mormonism building, and made it not dependent on Temple Square.

I have replaced the .doc file in my second post, with these changes and others, including a suggestion about tweaking ideology civics (extra effects for "vice" and "anti-vice" buildings, depending on ideology type).

 

[fox456]

@Camber,

Wow! The details you have put together for the inclusion of Mormonism are fantastic. They are very well thought out. Thanks for your efforts and thanks to Dancing Hoskuld for his plans to include Mormonism.

 

[wilson6907]

Anyone know how to finish the building plans for Mormonism?

@Camber,

Wow! The details you have put together for the inclusion of Mormonism are fantastic. They are very well thought out. Thanks for your efforts and thanks to Dancing Hoskuld for his plans to include Mormonism.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Anyone know how to finish the building plans for Mormonism?

I can do the XML but it needs graphics, without them it is going nowhere. I have been working on extending my Subdue Animals mod, spurred on by StrategyOnly's prehistoric mod. It now has more animals, different buildings and does more. It even produces correct messages now. I need to create an INI or options for it and put in language support and it will be up to standard

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

There is a new version of the Mormon religion stuff in the first post.

Only the basic buildings (temple, monastery, cathedral and shrine) and the missionary unit so far. Also much of the graphics and sound have been recycled from the Andean religion until I can get round to replacing them with better art - or someone provides the art.

It looks like the suggested pedia text is to long so I will have to edit it. Current defaults are based on the document provided by Camber in post #5. I have not chased down his graphics suggestions yet. I made a movie for the shrine from a cool picture on the LDS Portal, I need to credit the artist in the pedia!

 

[wilson6907]

Excellent job on the Mormonism religion.. its very well done.

 

[Thunderbrd]

I've been considering a whole 'Secret Society' mod for this, in which Masonry would be included, as well as the Illuminati, the Yakuza, the Thule Society and the Brotherhood of the Black Dragon (largely responsible for the Japanese element in WWII) among others. Will take some compiling and some figuring out how to make it work according to its role in the world.

As for the religions, we're moving in the right direction but may need some more for the untouched 'older' religions, if we can find some more ideas there, like the Phoenecian religion...

Also... what about Satanism? Even the US army recognizes it as a religion as unpopular as it may be (for good reason).

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

I've been considering a whole 'Secret Society' mod for this, in which Masonry would be included, as well as the Illuminati, the Yakuza, the Thule Society and the Brotherhood of the Black Dragon (largely responsible for the Japanese element in WWII) among others. Will take some compiling and some figuring out how to make it work according to its role in the world.

As for the religions, we're moving in the right direction but may need some more for the untouched 'older' religions, if we can find some more ideas there, like the Phoenecian religion...

Also... what about Satanism? Even the US army recognizes it as a religion as unpopular as it may be (for good reason).

I have tried to get FreeMasonry working, it shows up correctly in the civlopedia but does not show up in game. Then I got side tracked by other mods.

JonnySmith's Rapture mod an EusebiusWorldReligion-Revival mod are a great source for religions but they don't go in the same direction as the RoM mods and so need extra stuff added.

Satamism - don't forget that this game is played by children - perhaps as an optional extra you have to install yourself in some way.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

I have newer versions of the Bahai and Mormon religions to post soon. However the Mormon religion is currently one you don't want to get unless you have to. It's current malus from resources you have no control over is a bit much. Which is why I am thinking of going in a different direction.

Instead of increasing unhappiness with all those resources why not just remove access to them for the city. It is even more realistic. . Not sure if it will work, and not sure if I can do multiple resources per building. I will give it a go and report back.

Edit I spoke too soon. I can only remove one bonus per building