Everyone hates me

[baboon]

In my games so far (prince, king, emperor) I've been hated by the AI a lot. Usually my worst offense is 'You have a different government', which is apparently a reason to denounce me. Of course I get the occasional warmonger accusation, but if I conquer a capital in 0 AD, It's not really a reason to be angry about it in the 1800's I suppose?

I'm usually ahead on Science, have a pretty strong military, and am not very religious. Is that the reason of the hate?

 

[CBE Player]

The real reason for the hate differs from civ to civ with their "hidden agendas" you can do everything possible to help them like you but mostly they are stuck in "hate mode". I just ignore them and kill the ones that get to close or have something I "WANT". the rest are irrelevant.

 

[greygamer]

The problem in my opinion is the number of ways you can get into trouble with other civs

 

[Victoria]

Hate is a strong word. They dislike your politics which is human nature.
They are jealous because you have more great people than them, very human
You settled too close, you have troops near their border, you have nukes, all very paranoid and human
... And so on.

The game is very good at showing you why by going into the politics screen and clicking on the right bit.
What the game is bad at is showing you how these are decaying over time.

They like you when you have a nice chat, when you do a good deal, when you are friends or have open borders. These effects seem to take time to modify the dislikes.

It is not that hard to get most to like you with a few sacrifices but unless you are going for a cultural victory these are not so important. All great nations were hated by many.... Great meaning large.

 

[bladex]

just get used to it. if they give you any trouble bulldoze them out of the way into a corner. that's what i do

 

[Disgustipated]

The problem in my opinion is the number of ways you can get into trouble with other civs

This. There are too many agendas that inflict hatred towards you, and not enough that make them like you more. I like the agenda system, I just feel it needs more work.

And warmongering reputation should be ignored (completely) by more warlike civs like the Aztecs the exception being that you attacked that specific Civ in the past.

 

[greygamer]

just get used to it. if they give you any trouble bulldoze them out of the way into a corner. that's what i do

And that's the problem

 

[bladex]

no THAT'S the solution! Ai are just a joke right now they are so untrustworthy they Will backstab you at the drop of the hat even after you've done everything to please them. so don't trust them and don't even open your borders to them...EVA. bullying them is the ONLY solution

 

[greygamer]

no THAT'S the solution! Ai are just a joke right now they are so untrustworthy they Will backstab you at the drop of the hat even after you've done everything to please them. so don't trust them and don't even open your borders to them...EVA. bullying them is the ONLY solution

Except when they backstab you they either do nothing or send units to die and level up your forces. At some point the World Congress (or it's Civ VI alternative) will re-appear and diplomacy will actually matter again.

 

[bladex]

sure they will add that back in...as an expansion pack

 

[kamex]

Whats really annoying is when you get attacked around turn 20 for having 'low production' or something ridiculous.

 

[kaspergm]

Everybody hates everybody in this game.

 

[[to_xp]Gekko]

try using mods: fewer AI tantrums + agenda tweaks + smoother difficulty is a good combo I'd recommend

 

[bladex]

i use ai+ it's supposed to make the ai better doesn't seem to do much for me.

 

[[to_xp]Gekko]

AI+ focuses on making them better at waging war, the ones above are aimed at making them behave in a less psycho way

 

[bladex]

the ones above are aimed at making them behave in a less psycho way

didn't work norway and france are just as psycho as ever

 

[[to_xp]Gekko]

I think another issue is that AIs are more inclined to DOW the player on higher difficulties

 

[TheBossInTheWal]

My main problem is the decay of the warmongering label. It takes a very very long time.

 

[baboon]

Thanks all for the answers. Meanwhile I tried to make a pious religious civ (Japan) and well, they hate me again. Now they think I'm stupid and weak. I'll just return the hate, I shot all their chariots without a single loss.

So, from what I've read it's hardly avoidable to be hated and it doesn't even matter that much compared to Civ 5 (no UN that destroys your economy)

It's pity, I just liked it when someone was just a fan the entire game.

 

[baboon]

My main problem is the decay of the warmongering label. It takes a very very long time.

Yeah, especially when you conquered a capital, which is in my opinion, the best thing to conquer.