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"Exclusive" Civilization Revolution Preview

Discussion in 'CivRev - General Discussions' started by Padma, Nov 9, 2007.

  1. Padma

    Padma the Inbond Administrator

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    Wow. Just ... wow.

    Wednesday, Novemver 7, DanQ from Apolyton and myself visited Firaxis for an exclusive preview of Civilization: Revolution. We both agreed it was probably the most fun we had had in a while. :) Dan had a video camera wirh him, and once he edits the footage and posts it on Poly, I'll post a link.

    The day started with a tour of the company. We couldn't take many pictures during this, since there was a lot of concept art and other non-releasable stuff posted on walls, etc. Too bad, because it all looked great!

    Then we sat down with Barry and Sid (and Dennis and Kelly) for the official preview. Sid started a game using the current build on an XBox360, hooked up to a huge (60 inch?) screen. For the record he played as Lincoln of the Americans. As he played, he explained what was happening, and concepts behind it.

    If you've played Civ4, you should be pretty comfortable with it. Despite what some may say, it hasn't been "dumbed down". Certain elements *have* been simplified. For instance, you don't have to micromanage your cities. But for hard-core control freaks, the ability is still there, just not as obvious. Another change is that if there is nothing to do, by default, it won't wait at the end of your turn. Workers don't run around manually doing things. For instance, to build a road between two cities is as simple as selecting that option, and paying the required gold.

    Let me digress here a moment. Sid (and the rest) tried hard to make sure we understood a few things. Civ:Rev is NOT Civ5. It is a separate branch of the Civ family. It is targeted at a quite different audience, and for a reason. Not all console gamers are brain-dead. This game is intended to give them a true strategy game. It will also demonstrate that TBS can be *fun*. (And for any concerned about the health/quality of PC Civ, all I can legally tell you is, you're going to be amazed, and you're going to have FUN! :D)

    Anyway, after Sid did his demo, and we chatted a while, Dan and I got a unique treat: we are the first non-Firaxis people to actually *play* the game! I got the console in the conference room, and Dan took the identical system in the next room. First, Barry ran upstairs and pushed a new build, that had the opening movie in it. Let me just say that this movie, with 5.1 Surround Sound, is simply awesome. I even got to watch it several times, as you will see below.

    After the movie, I clicked quickly through the initial screens (single player, new game, difficulty level, etc.). When I got to the "Select your Civ" screen, I paused for a bit, so I could study the different Civs, their leaders, and their "traits". On the selection screen, each Civ's special bonuses are explained when you cursor over it. And there are different bonuses for each era of the game. For instance, a Civ might get extra food per worked tile in the Ancient age, an extra gold per worked tile in the Middle ages, a free Great Person in the Industrial age, and a +1 attack in the Modern age. It also lists the Special Unit(s) that Civ can build. Aztecs have the Jaguar Warrior, which auto-heals. The Americans get some WW2-era units.

    (Another aside: Catherine of Russia will probably win as the "hottest babe" in this game. ;) But Cleopatra runs a close second, especially in that gauzy Ancient Age costume. :groucho: )

    Anyway, I decided that, for tradition's sake, I would play my first game as Caesar of the Romans. I selected him, and watched the game crash immediately. :eek: I guess we don't play the Romans on this build. ;)

    After we laughed, Dennis got the Xbox back up, and I tried again. This time, I chose Lincoln, since I was sure that would work. After all, Sid had just played as him. ;) So we got going, built Washington, and started exploring. Wait a minute. I can *see* everything! Where's the fog? Oops. Barry forgot to turn that back on when he added the movie. (The developers can use a lot of *cheats* in their builds, to help them debug,) So he went back upstairs to do another build, and push it back to this box. Meanwhile, I saved the game so we could pick up where I left off. Let me also add that fog in this games isn't just black "you can't see this" covering, but is gray, drifting tendrils, thick where you haven't been, and thin where you have. If you watch, you can see it moving. A great effect.

    Barry came back, and said we were good to go, so I fired it up again, this time choosing "Load Game" instead of "New". But the only save I could see was Montezuma. No matter. It was approximately at the same point as my Lincoln game, so I pressed on with it. I began my explorations again, running into some nasty barbarian camps. Camps seem to have 3 warriors in them to defeat. Fortunately, Barbs are "uncivilized", so they get a negative applied to their combat. My northern Jags defeated the first three barbarian warriors they ran into, and got promoted to Veteran status. Another few Barbs, and I was able to upgrade them. I gave them "March" capability, making them a 2-move unit. Still heading north, I found yet another Barb camp. Took out the first warrior. Took out the second. The third wiped out my nice little Jag unit. :(

    Meanwhile, closer to home, other Jags were busy exploring. I found several "Friendly Villages" ( = Goody Huts) and gained some gold and techs. And then I met Cleo. The initial meeting we agreed on Peace, and I was able to buy some tech from her, as well. But I soon realized she was blocking a land bridge to the east. I had explored north ans south as far as I could, and to the west was ocean, and I didn't have any boats, yet. But entering another Civ's territory is a declaration of war (although you get an "are you sure?"-type message). So I built my forces, and created a Jag Warrior Army. (Note: Any special promotions a unit in an Army has apply to the entire Army. So if a unit has March, the whole Army has March. If a unit has Medic, the whole Army has Medic. Etc. So by selecting the units to go into an Army carefully, you can get a very powerful Army, indeed!)

    So I marched my Army, plus a spare Jag, up to Thebes, and declared war. Oops! She has an Army of Pikes guarding her city! And with the City defense bonus, my mighty jags were chopped into little pieces. :( I quickly made sure I had defenses in my two cities, and started building more to be safe. Things seem quiet for a bit, and I start to breathe a little easier. I begin building a galley to go check out the "Great Relic" friendly tribes have told rumors of, off to the north. Then, Cleo pops up asking for peace, for a "mere" 65 gold. Since I'm running out of playing time, I decide to try some things, just to see what happens. I offer her 33G, instead, and she leaves in a huff. Suddenly, her Army approaches my second city. I try to contact her, to offer her 65G, or even more, but the Diplo screen isn't in this build. All I can do is just watch as she slaughters my brave defenders. Finally, after she has the city, she again offers me peace. I jump at the chance. A few minutes later, Dennis' jaw drops as far as mine when we realize she is pumping Culture in that city as hard as possible. This looks like a *good* AI.

    Anyway, I now have a Galley, with a Jag on it for exploring. I send it north, but in the year 1270 AD, the game crashes. It's getting late, so Dennis advises against restarting. We go and watch DanQ stomp on the AI in his game. (Of course, I was playing on "King", the "everything is even" level, and he was playing on Warlord. ;))

    We also got a chance to play on the DS for a while. Game play is exactly the same as on the 360, it is just the graphics that change. (Dennis likes the DS version - it reminds him of Civ2, with the 8-bit graphics. :))

    All-in-all, I love this game.
     
  2. Padma

    Padma the Inbond Administrator

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    DanQ, Barry, Padma, and Sid - Nov 7, 2007

     

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  3. trada

    trada civ1 mod Retired Moderator

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    Wow! This is most impressive!
     
  4. Zhuge_Liang

    Zhuge_Liang The greatest strategist

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    As far as I can say................. THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!
     
  5. Lucky The Fox

    Lucky The Fox Chieftain

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    This is the best bit, as long as the AI doesn't suffer too much.
     
  6. Padma

    Padma the Inbond Administrator

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    From what I could tell, it doesn't suffer. Of course, with the memory limitations of the DS, I won't guarantee that. Still, the biggest memory hog they were working on trimming was the graphics.
     
  7. Yorkshire_14

    Yorkshire_14 EA SPORTS/Civ guy

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    You should have told Sid to make it for the PSP!
     
  8. hossam

    hossam Chieftain

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    maybe he did, please tell me you did!! you had to
     
  9. Sub

    Sub in omnia paratus

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    I don't see what difference it would make whether he told Sid that or not. It's not as if Firaxis doesn't realize that the PSP exists.

    Anyways, cool writeup, I like how Firaxis does stuff like this for the big fansites.
     
  10. Ace of Gold

    Ace of Gold MAKE WAY FOR THE BAD GUY

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    you said at the DS graphics are worse. How much different are they from X-box version, is it just like civ 4

    Glad to hear the DS version is the same gameplay though.
     
  11. bernie77

    bernie77 Chieftain

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    Does it have good graphics and will the player be able to play offline multiplayer?
     
  12. dshirk

    dshirk Firaxian

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    The DS version has the exact same engine driving it as the 360 version, just with a different presentation layer. Screenshots will be released shortly and you can judge for yourself, but we definitely like where it's going. :)
     
  13. Genocidicbunny

    Genocidicbunny Bug squasher

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    Great writeup Padma!. Maybe when Civ: Revolution comes out I can force my FPS trigger happy friends to try it out.
     
  14. Padma

    Padma the Inbond Administrator

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    Thanks, stickciv. :)

    That's exactly what this game is about. It's not *designed* for us Civ-fanatics: it is aimed at the non-civ-playing / console-playing FPS-ers. ;)

    That doesn't mean we can't enjoy it, too. Heck, I had so much fun that I'm seriously considering buying an XBox360 just for this game! :D
     
  15. Genocidicbunny

    Genocidicbunny Bug squasher

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    Well, I wouldnt go as far as to say I would buy a 360 just for the game, but it would be a definite buy if I did have one.
     
  16. Tr Derka

    Tr Derka Chieftain

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    How did you get the oppertunity to go do this? Cause I would have done ALOT to get this same oppertunity. Meeting Sid! That's awesome.
     
  17. Padma

    Padma the Inbond Administrator

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    It was a special opportunity for the heads of the two largest Civ fan sites (CFC & Apolyton). Thunderfall got tied up with a project at work, and as a senior staff member, with some free time available, I had the honor of representing CFC. :D
     
  18. ChrTh

    ChrTh Mmm...tasty!

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    Thanks for the report, Padma. I love the fact that the DS mechanic is the same as the consoles ... means I'm a lot less likely to beg for the Wii version when it comes out.
     
  19. croxis

    croxis Chat room op

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    This is why you arnt in the chatroom so often =P

    Isn't there a wii version coming out later? Online MP capabilities?

    I'm glad it is a good game for what it is trying to do. I may get a DS just to get Civ, Populous and Sim City
     
  20. Padma

    Padma the Inbond Administrator

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    XBox360, PS3, and DS versions will be out in Spring. The Wii version will be out in the Fall.

    I know the XBox will have obline capability, maybe the PS3, as well. I don't know about the Wii. The DS? ... :dunno:

    I do know the XBox will have the Game Of The Week: a new start you can download each week, play, and upload your results to compare with others.
     

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