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[BNW] Experiences with AI and Artificial Unintelligence

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by IronCrown, Mar 5, 2019.

  1. IronCrown

    IronCrown Black Foe of the World

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    I recently started playing Civ V for the first time since 2011 or so. Main reason was the existence of the DLL mod Artificial Unintelligence because weak AI is a killer reason for me to not play a game.

    Unfortunately the creator of the mod seems to have gone inactive and the thread about the mod is dead, last post was in 2016 - by myself ^^

    But I'd be interested if anyone else is still playing with this mod and how you would describe its impact. Note that I have not played against the unmodded AI since forever.

    Yesterday I finished my first game in Civ 5, easy win on King, Standard Continents map. I was kind of going for Domination, but then that seemed like too much work, so I switched to Science. But then discovered that you need aluminum for spaceship parts and I didn't have any left. So I just bought all the city states and won by Diplomacy.

    The AI players seemed to be doing somewhat okay for the low difficulty in terms of how their empires looked. But I noticed that they were unable to even conquer any city states. Repeatedly a major AI would declare war on a city state, but always fail to conquer it, even in the late game, and eventually make peace. Quite pathetic. If they can't even beat one city, how are they supposed to fight against the player? Is the unmodded AI really even worse at this?
     
  2. Acken

    Acken Chieftain

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    King AI has always been rather weak. Artificial Unintelligence tries to improve things but I feel its missing a large part of the puzzle by itself. Cant really compare as I have not used AU in a long time. Challenge in a TBS has to come from both AI and balance. That's why I used to make a mod centered around both AI and balance changes in order to create a challenging game (with some of the AI changes coming directly from artificial unintelligence). I'm no longer actively modding it though but I still feel you could give it a go if you want a bigger challenge as it still has gone a long way. For example the only time I've seen AIs win domination is in my mod. This never happens in the base game. For a more complete overhaul and AI integration maybe look at Vox Populi though I don't know where it's at these days.
     
  3. John.B.C

    John.B.C Chieftain

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    If you want play a strong AI that has become so good that it sometimes feels like playing another humanbeing (it's crazy good!). Install the the Vox populi mod or, only the community balance patch that comes with it (if you don't want the overall changes to the game).

    Here are a few quotes to chew on from the latest releases:


     
  4. elotar

    elotar Chieftain

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    Do it still slows down AI turns to a crawl after railroads?
     
  5. John.B.C

    John.B.C Chieftain

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    A little bit naturally, I don't experience the game as a "crawl" and in no way close to how it was before, sometimes my game even froze and CTD due to stuck units (I think), but I think they fixed that and I haven't experienced that anymore in ages.
     
  6. plus

    plus Chieftain

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    i only play with uu mod and it's great.recommend emperor or higher and youll have big massive wars.of course youll sometimes see the ai embark for no good reason but this happens to real armies in life too so no blame
     
  7. AntiPater

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    Vox populi makes the game exciting and challenging from turn 1 , the AI is incredible as they can flank from 3 sides. You can use Really Advanced Setup mod to add 3 warrior 2 settlers 2 scout 1 worker to mimic the original vanilla deity AI starting units for better challenge:)
    The research tree is well optimized, no longer you can slingshotcheat.
    Builders are too imbalanced for civ vi, i prefer workers .
     
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  8. Asterix Rage

    Asterix Rage Warlord

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    Vox Populi
     
  9. elotar

    elotar Chieftain

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    Still playing with Smart AI v3 + Artificial Unintelligence Lite
     

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