Fall Further - Download and Current Changelog

I know the FF team is composed of you, Vehem, Jean Elcard, WarKirby and notque...

Hey xienwolf... That buffonish villain NPC I was having trouble naming? I've decided.
 
Huh? Sorry Tarquelne, I didn't know you were part of it :blush: :blush:
(and now that I read the FF Credits thread, I think I've got the answers to my questions)
 
Huh? Sorry Tarquelne, I didn't know you were part of it :blush: :blush:
(and now that I read the FF Credits thread, I think I've got the answers to my questions)

Too late! Your good name will only be unsullied if Vehem doesn't want to do a civ based off The Barber of Seville, which is now the lynch-pin of my idea.
 
Only Vehem had access to GIT, which is what we used up until a few days ago when for some reason it came up to use the SVN system to generate them. Turned out to be easier for Vehem (I don't even know what GIT is, other than a versioning method), and he explained how it was done to the rest of us.

I'd say that the team isn't too horribly organized, as in "That's ___'s Job!" But I just hide in the DLL most fo the time anyway. If they want a feature, they ask me to add it to my list. If they want breathing room they ask me to stop adding crap. Beyond that... they're The Team, ya know? Things just kinda happen :p

I guess if forced to state jobs I would say that Jean is the Map Guy, Tarq is the Idea Guy, Kirby is Art, Vehem is Quality Control, and I'm the source of bugs. Should Notque return, he was mostly focusing on the AI, but seemed ready to branch out into mechanics in the DLL. Though it is REALLY hard to work on the AI without changing mechanics of the game because sometimes better ideas just smack you in the face, AND are easier to have the AI use properly.
 
Too late! Your good name will only be unsullied if Vehem doesn't want to do a civ based off The Barber of Seville, which is now the lynch-pin of my idea.
Don't touch my name! Or else... else... Meh. I already have one FF team member (you see, I know you're one!) punning with my mod's name, I don't need another punning with my own name! And no one's able to correctly spell my civ's name. Just let it go, m'kay? Here, a big smile for you: :D

You know that many people call you Tarqueline? :p

Only Vehem had access to GIT, which is what we used up until a few days ago when for some reason it came up to use the SVN system to generate them. Turned out to be easier for Vehem (I don't even know what GIT is, other than a versioning method), and he explained how it was done to the rest of us.

I'd say that the team isn't too horribly organized, as in "That's ___'s Job!" But I just hide in the DLL most fo the time anyway. If they want a feature, they ask me to add it to my list. If they want breathing room they ask me to stop adding crap. Beyond that... they're The Team, ya know? Things just kinda happen :p

I guess if forced to state jobs I would say that Jean is the Map Guy, Tarq is the Idea Guy, Kirby is Art, Vehem is Quality Control, and I'm the source of bugs. Should Notque return, he was mostly focusing on the AI, but seemed ready to branch out into mechanics in the DLL. Though it is REALLY hard to work on the AI without changing mechanics of the game because sometimes better ideas just smack you in the face, AND are easier to have the AI use properly.
I knew that every bug in FF was your doing :lol:
 
I divide my time between making pretty things on request (general art, ring of carce, rubber duck)
And coming up with crazy little ideas and running off to implement them (gretchin, Dwarven Defender, Corrode)

I try to fix art errors and missing nifs as they're reported, sometimes xien gets to them first.

I'm usually the one that goes off playtesting stuff then comes back with a big list of complaints that we chat about :D
 
Haven't played FF for a long time, now returned and it's good to see it getting better :goodjob: Thank you all!

Links for AlexanderJJ
Spoiler :
Here are links for FFH 040z and FF 050n at rapidshare
Fall From Heaven 2 040 rar part 1
http://rapidshare.com/files/261052653/FallfromHeaven2040.part1.rar.html

Fall From Heaven 2 040 rar part 2
http://rapidshare.com/files/261071995/FallfromHeaven2040.part2.rar.html

Fall From Heaven 2 040 Patch Z
http://rapidshare.com/files/261031269/FfH2040z.exe.html

Fall Further 050
http://rapidshare.com/files/261031276/FFSetup050.exe.html

Fall Further 050 Patch N
http://rapidshare.com/files/261031267/FF050-PatchN.exe.html

And the Media Pack is the same.


You actually need both, because FF 050 copies files from FFH. Only FF 051 is now independent. AND you need BTS 3.17.

If you are not sure how to install FF 050 properly - you can pm me, search or ask in the forum.

You are most assuredly a life-saver! Thanks again for the help, here, this is precisely the kind of thing I wanted. I'll get another install of Civ4 going for this for when I want my favored Sephi-aided Fall Further experience now!
 
if corrode no longer removes mithril weapons ... o.O ... what will?

That's kind of the point, nothing does now. I played a recent game where 58 mythril wielding vampires turned up on my doorstep. And I probably could have beaten them since I had druids and longbowmen everywhere. But casting rust on them made it stupoidly easy. It's a pretty unbalanced spell in general, I think. Tis change made sense, both from a lore and balance standpoint - mythril doesn't rust. It's unobtainium
 
Can I ask why did you change the name, though? To make it clear it has not the same effects anymore?
 
Because Rust is a very ferrocentric name. Bronze doesn't rust, for instance, it tarnishes and corrodes. Rust is a specific name given to Ferrous Oxide, and it made no sense for non-iron weapons
 
OK so now I know who the usual suspects and un-indicted co-conspirators are around here...
 
could hippus great commanders be allowed to buy the mobility one and two promotions preese? Or have a high chance of starting on horseback? Or to be able to buy a horse for him via gold upgrade to mounted commander? Also perhaps the ability to buy the commando promotion?
 
Now that I now who to ask, I have my own request - can we have Fort Commander units in FF such as are implemented in Orbis? I really enjoy those and find them really useful. I even use them during extended sieges, building forts to wage ranged warfare on the enemy's cities and forts.
 
could hippus great commanders be allowed to buy the mobility one and two promotions preese? Or have a high chance of starting on horseback? Or to be able to buy a horse for him via gold upgrade to mounted commander? Also perhaps the ability to buy the commando promotion?

It's not just hippus. I found with kuriotates that once I started promoting my mounted units that the commanders simply couldn't keep up.

I half convinced myself that was okay because mounted units are supposed to be skirmishers, except for heavy cavalry who promote combat/drill before speed.

Might be nice though if the GCs could get the ability to settle like in the main game.
 
It's not just hippus. I found with kuriotates that once I started promoting my mounted units that the commanders simply couldn't keep up.

Really? I've had no problem so far with my Horse Archers and their GCs, playing as the Scions. Your GCs, btw, will prolly be a few levels or so behind the units they command. This is ok, as long as your GCs don't get too far behind. (If your GC is like 5 levels behind, I'd start worrying. :() They won't, in my experience, ever be the same level as the units they command.

Edit: (I did a WB test.) An exception: On turn 0, I used WB to place a GC and 3 warriors. The GC and the warriors will level up at the same rate. This is cuz the GC and the warriors all start at level 1.
In most situations, though, your units will get some experience. (Mine tend to get 8-9xp, due to "Form of the Titan", the buildings that give 2-3xp, and my civics.) So, since your GC will be at level 1 (while the commanded units will be higher level [usually 3 or 4]), it will be behind by a few levels.
 
I still think Mardero should be able to remove enemy mithril weapons. That's the main reason I use him.
 
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