Fantasizing surrender in the Culture Wars

[JollyRoger]

An Obama presidency would signal the final salvo by the Left in the culture wars. Obama’s advance troops have already taken over our college campuses, have bound and gagged our conservative professors, have ravished our virgins, have pillaged our stores of wisdom, and have ensconced themselves in the thrones of power in deans’, presidents’ and department heads’ offices

http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/MaryGrabar/2008/06/09/obama%E2%80%99s_presidency_victory_in_the_culture_wars

Apparently, you're not a real liberal until you have bound and gagged a conservative professor and ravished a virgin. I'm sad to report that I did it wrong - I bound & gagged a virgin and ravished a conservative professor. I didn't realize the extreme extent of the masochistic way some righties view themselves in relation to a bunch of limp-wristed liberals (not that there's anything wrong with that).

But a couple questions for those of you with both hands still available for your keyboard - righties are seemingly big on personal responsibility, yet a common theme that emeges from many rightwing screeds is the view of righties as passive victims - is their an explanation for this? Would conservatives fair better in the Culture Wars if they looked at themselves as true warriors instead of the hapless conquered victims of the shrill liberal minority?

 

[QuoVadisNation]

Can't they do both?

 

[I'm Cleo!]

Can't they do both?

Bind, gag, and ravish conservative professors?

Cleo

 

[QuoVadisNation]

Bind, gag, and ravish conservative professors?

Cleo

I meant ravishing and gaging.

 

[Gooblah]

Those who have been taught about communism likely have been told that it is one of many systems of government, not evil, perhaps even offering better health care, as in the opinion of Michael Moore, himself likely to be on the syllabus. We had 9/11, but already in the days following you could see how the left brainwashes the inmates of the educational system. Students who should have been inspired to passionately defend their country and culture instead were given lectures in English classes on the historical reasons for the attacks (the Crusades, as my colleague at the University of Georgia presented it to his freshman composition classes). Or they were treated to “workshops” on the “peaceful” traits of Islam (presented in contrast to the rapacious imperialism of Christianity). Today, the fountainhead of anti-Semitism and anti-Christianity is on the college campus.

Oh, right. So we shouldn't learn about why the attacks occured and how we can stem the problem at the source. No, we should all join the military and declare a nationalist jihad of our own. Now, I'm not saying that's what's going on right now...far from it; the war in Afghanistan is totally justified, and while I don't support the concept of war in Iraq, I think we should stay till the job's done...hopefully soon. And of course, the "peaceful" traits of Islam are all a charade. Nope, Islam is an inherently violent religion. And Christianity is all peaceful.

All religions have faults. The Crusaders were fanatics who called themselves Christians and (IMO) ruined Christ's name for a good while. Similarly, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Qaeda...all terrorists who call themselves "good Muslims", not the other way around.

 

[Arwon]

Short version:

Is our children learning? YES? OH NOES!

Whips and ball-gags optional.

 

[Cutlass]

http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/MaryGrabar/2008/06/09/obama%E2%80%99s_presidency_victory_in_the_culture_wars

Apparently, you're not a real liberal until you have bound and gagged a conservative professor and ravished a virgin. I'm sad to report that I did it wrong - I bound & gagged a virgin and ravished a conservative professor. I didn't realize the extreme extent of the masochistic way some righties view themselves in relation to a bunch of limp-wristed liberals (not that there's anything wrong with that).

But a couple questions for those of you with both hands still available for your keyboard - righties are seemingly big on personal responsibility, yet a common theme that emeges from many rightwing screeds is the view of righties as passive victims - is their an explanation for this? Would conservatives fair better in the Culture Wars if they looked at themselves as true warriors instead of the hapless conquered victims of the shrill liberal minority?

That never happens in real life. The gauge of how far right someone is is best measured by how completely they oppose personal responsibility.

"Culture" is generally drifting a bit to the left, while the portion of the population on the right becomes more aggressive and vocal. The left is quieter, so gets less attention on a day to day basis, and is less politically aggressive so it's agenda doesn't advance very much any more. As far as government policy, it's the squeaky wheel phenomena, and the right simply makes more noise. The right has also, over the past generation anyways, been better organized and had a clearer picture of what it wanted to do. While the left covers a lot of territory, and many of it's "leaders" cower toward the center for fear of being out in front of the masses.

yet a common theme that emeges from many rightwing screeds is the view of righties as passive victims - is their an explanation for this?

It's the lack of morals and ethics: There is no tool so unethical that they'll shrink from it, cause "god is on their side"

Would conservatives fair better in the Culture Wars if they looked at themselves as true warriors instead of the hapless conquered victims of the shrill liberal minority?

They are by far the most aggressive party to the culture wars already. This is only one of many tactics. They make themselves irrelevant in a growing number of people, and those people simply tunes them out.

The right has moved to the left on many issues as well. Mixed marriages, which would have produced an uproar 30-40 years ago, and ignored now. It's a slow process though.

 

[Trajan12]

Read the rest of the woman's work. She's the typical "Culture War" loon. Everything she writes about can be easily summed up as fighting on the frontlines to defend the virtue of European ideals from the Marauding Hordes of negra, orientals, ayrabs, and lousy Mexicans.

 

[CaptainF]

Haha, why do I find this garbage unconvincing?

Even for the well-being of the business world we need to refocus on the humanities. As Ryn points out, the “honesty, good manners, and social responsibility” of Western businessmen is formed by “an ancient civilization.” But the increasingly popular business school major offers little in terms of appreciation for the hallmarks of our Western civilization.

Hahaha yes, those honest, socially responsible Enron and WorldCom execs...great guys.

 

[cubsfan6506]

Hell the right can never win a culture war, it is literally impossible. The rightward movement constantly moves left every generation. For instance nearly 100% of social conservatives from this generation are not racists, while social conservatives from three or four generations ago are nearly entirely racist. Pretty soon they won’t hate gays or abortion any more, they’ll hate something else while gays are happily married.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Thanks for the laugh Is that article serious?

Dear Zod.

 

[stuge]

Hmm, it's either crying or laughing.

"Ha ha, this is so ********."

 

[Richard Cribb]

Hell the right can never win a culture war, it is literally impossible.(---)

As long as the so-called culture war is occupying a prominent place in the political discourse the right is winning.
Big.

 

[Phlegmak]

The conservative traditions and beliefs, in contrast, are rarely to be found in college syllabi and high school textbooks. Obama connects with audiences because they have been primed for him and his message. Obama, with his scantly resume, is an affirmative action candidate. But his record as a “community organizer” places him at an advantage with those who believe in “social activism” in the classroom.

Woooooo, that's nasty.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

What are the conservative traditions and beliefs?

 

[Arwon]

Woooooo, that's nasty.

Gotta love those dog-whistles.

 

[Cutlass]

What are the conservative traditions and beliefs?

That people should do what they are told, how they are told, and when they are told, and shut their mouths about it.

 

[El_Machinae]

What are the conservative traditions and beliefs?

Whatever was common opinion 30 years ago. Pretty well by definition.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Maybe I should rephrase my question a little more focussed

In light of the article, there are a couple that definatly should be found in college syllabi and high school textbooks. But aren't.

Which ones?! "Tax = bad, M'kay"?

 

[Shaihulud]

Words from a weak helpless female, is there no wonder? She obviously fantasizes about being dominated, although she knows society protects her. Wingedness, right or left is irrelevant in this case.