Farms vs cottages

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Strategy & Tips' started by Thor7, Mar 17, 2010.

  1. DigitalBoy

    DigitalBoy Emperor

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    If you ask me, farming non-resource tiles with the intention of running specialists with the surplus is a waste, unless you're in Representation or it's in your GP farm. Specialists are best run using food resources.

    Running extra specialists by running farms also exacerbates happiness/health caps.

    PS: Plains cottages are totally underrated.
     
  2. TCMIV

    TCMIV Barış Manço

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    This is pretty much what I've started doing. Having 4-5 good production cities with caste/state property workshops makes prepping wars much easier than letting a heroic epic city carry most of the weight. Unless you're planning solely on rush-buying your units, in which case loads of mature cottages will be a better option.
     
  3. Thor7

    Thor7 Warlord

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    Yep I remember reading that thread looong ago, thanks for the refresher.
     
  4. cabert

    cabert Big mouth

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    I cottage plains often, because they are golden age happy this way
    (1hammer + 1 commerce => 2 hammers + 2 commerce). I almost never work them outside of golden ages though :lol:
    on rivers, I tend to farm them except if I have the really crazy food surplus you'd use for a GP farm, but already have more than 1 GP farm.
     
  5. TheWilltoAct

    TheWilltoAct I am observe

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    I just discovered Scientific Method and wouldn't you know it KatyieKat, both my oil sources are beneath towns. :sad:
     
  6. Tristan_C

    Tristan_C Emperor

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    True on all points, but the importance of specialists can't be overemphasized in anyone's early economy.

    A specialist in the city where you intend to pop your first GP is essentially giving you 40+ beakers a turn. A serious payoff. The rewards go down from there and we'll only want 1-3 such cities. Ah well, agonizing decisions await.
     
  7. vicawoo

    vicawoo Chieftain

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    You don't make grassland farms to run half a specialist, you make them to grow (transition) faster to the size where you can work the desired number of specialists.

    Example, you have 2 fish, you can run 5 specialists off them and the food surplus. But if you're say size 3, you can still only run 2 specialists, so you want to grow to size 7, and grassland farms will save time.

    If you say wanted to run an additional specialist (say 6 specialists) supported by 2 grassland farms, you have to grow 3 population, 2 for the farm and 1 for the specialist itself (so size 10). Note that every 2 food could have gone into a turn of running a specialist (so without considering the additional food you get at sizes 8 or 9), so you're losing about (17+18+19)/2=54/2=27 turns of specialists, or 81 GPP x multiplier. It will take 27 turns to break even in GPP. So especially the larger your city, the greater your food costs are and the less worthwhile it is to grow 3 sizes to run one more specialist.
     

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