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Favorite Wonder -Renaissance

Discussion in 'Civ2 - Strategy & Tips' started by ArmOrAttAk, Jul 1, 2002.

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Vote for your favorite, whatever level or settings you play.

  1. Sun Tzu's War Academy

    4 vote(s)
    4.2%
  2. King Richard's Crusade

    9 vote(s)
    9.4%
  3. Marco Polo's Embassy

    9 vote(s)
    9.4%
  4. Michelangelo's Chapel

    55 vote(s)
    57.3%
  5. Copernicus' Observatory

    7 vote(s)
    7.3%
  6. Magellan's Expedition

    9 vote(s)
    9.4%
  7. Shakespeare's Theatre

    3 vote(s)
    3.1%
  1. ArmOrAttAk

    ArmOrAttAk Chieftain

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    Vote for your favorite, whatever level or settings you play.
     
  2. Smash

    Smash Super Lurker Retired Moderator

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    Generally speaking,Mich's Chapel
     
  3. kmad

    kmad Chieftain

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    unanimous i hope
     
  4. KingWilly

    KingWilly Melbournite

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    Mike's Chapel is probably my favourite, though I still like Copernicus' Observitory.

    Marco's can also be really important for those games where you start on an island, with the AI uncontactable for a long period without it.
     
  5. Titi

    Titi Chieftain

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    Well, Michelangelo's Chapel helps managing your cities.

    But Shakespeare's Theater is interesting if you need to build armies but keep your people not too unhappy.
     
  6. duke o' york

    duke o' york It don't mean a thing....

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    I will generally get Mike's, Cop's and Shakespeare's as well as another, depending on what sort of game I'm playing, but my favourites are in that order. I don't understand why anyone would vote for anything else though. I realise that it's not absolutely necessary on Chieftain and Warlord, and you can get by without it on Prince, but for all the others then you'll need it to keep up and not pay 50% luxuries for the rest of the game.
     
  7. Marlos

    Marlos Christian Soldier

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    I knew that I would get outvoted on this one, but if you have STWA, you can capture MC if you don't get it! :ar15: I certainly try to build BOTH, though. ;)

    On higher levels, MC is a must.
     
  8. Dark Ascendant

    Dark Ascendant Darkness Ascending...

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    There's no doubt about it, Mike's chap is the best. Cathedrals are just too expensive to build and maintain. In the long long, it's worth it. It's especially useful in keeping people content after taking over a city.
     
  9. Ace

    Ace Chieftain

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    At the diety level, its gotta be Mike's Chapel. Without this one, you spend half your time (and resources) fighting off unhappiness!!

    Most of the wonders in this era are very good, but Mike's is just too good to pass up!

    :beer: :tank:
     
  10. starlifter

    starlifter Chieftain

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    At Deity/Emperor, MC. At the easiest levels, probably Magellans (its effect cannot be duplicated).
     
  11. Andu Indorin

    Andu Indorin Retired Druid

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    At Deity -- as most everyone here knows -- it's got to be Mike's Chapel. If you complete the "Pre-Modern Triad" (Colossus, Hanging Gardens, Mike's Chapel), there is almost no reason for not sweeping the remaining Wonders of the World and winning the game. But without Mike's Chapel, the full effectiveness of both the Colossus and the Hanging Gardens are severely limited; hence, Mike's Chapel remains the most important single wonder of the game at Deity and above.
     
  12. Old n Slow

    Old n Slow Chieftain

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    Yeah, I'll go with Mike as well. Funny thing for me though is that it is one of the last wonders on the list I build. If I'm doing well at prince or king I'll get them all -- haven't played emporer+ (nor MP) enough to feel the squeeze yet.

    One question I haven't seen yet is the wonder combinations. Clearly the SSC is the most famous; but I also like the ST/KRC combo (especially with the SSC). I think that Leo's works better with STWA -- after the upgrade an easy fight regives vet status.

    Any other combos out there -- where if you build one of a set the second looks more attractive?
     
  13. eyeball

    eyeball Chieftain

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    There's a lot of good ones, but I like King Richard's Crusade. I build it in a large city producing a lot of shields, then I can build more wonders, units, etc. in less time. Unfortunately, it produces a lot of pollution.
     
  14. starlifter

    starlifter Chieftain

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    There is a lot more about Pollution and the KRC here.

    I rarely get more than 1 or 2 skulls per game due to KRC & the mathematics of pollution. Do not let all the yellow triangles scare you.... pump all the shields you can (I like 25+ or 30+ or 34+, due to multiples).

    :)
     
  15. ArmOrAttAk

    ArmOrAttAk Chieftain

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    Damn not one vote for shakespeare's.
     
  16. The Person

    The Person Deity +2

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    Thanks for reviving this thread instead of starting a new one, ArmOrAttack.

    Mike's for me.
     
  17. Marx

    Marx Chieftain

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    Definitly michaelangelo's Chapel.

    The 'instant' cathedrals are very usefull. At higher levels it's a problem that your cities become unhappy with only size 3 or 4. Mich. Chapel will give you more time to build some basic improvements. It will save money and building time...
     
  18. sethos

    sethos no allies

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    1st Mike's
    2nd MPE
    3rd STWA
    Normally I play deity. Settings: 7 civs, raging hordes, map 125x80, 3 billion years,
    warm, wet, big continents.

    I usually build them all in deity (if the terrain isn't too bad).
     
  19. Terrapin

    Terrapin Chieftain

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    ...And the crowd began to chant, "I like Mike, I like Mike..."

    Shields to build: 400

    Cost to rush 8 camels: 1,000g

    Having a cathedral in new/conquored/purchased cities: Priceless
     
  20. Prof. Garfield

    Prof. Garfield Chieftain

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    Mikes. It isn't the "best" in my opinion, but it is certainly the most usefull for the harder levels.
     

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