Luckymoose
The World is Mine
To: Girdiash
From: Zekul
Does this mena you will go to war with those ROmellkans(lol i hate that word).
From: Zekul
Does this mena you will go to war with those ROmellkans(lol i hate that word).
fCNES I Out of the Darkness and into the Light
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Luckymoose
The World is Mine
To: Girdiash
From: Zekul
Sure why not.But the lands you hold now are hte only lands you will recieve from us.We continue our war with Romellkans.K
From: Zekul
Sure why not.But the lands you hold now are hte only lands you will recieve from us.We continue our war with Romellkans.K
~Darkening~
Weep, Mother.
The yellow nation to my west should be Sirdell, correct? If not then just subsitut whatever it is.
To "Queen" Delliana II of Sirdell
From King Savien IV
The audacity that you possess seemingly has no bounds. It was well known that my kingdom has been expanding to the western sea, and yet you choose to organize a kingdom in land that naturally belongs to us? I personally refuse to allow this to happen. You will either submit to our authority or to our rule. Your choice.
OOC: I hate spelling.
To "Queen" Delliana II of Sirdell
From King Savien IV
The audacity that you possess seemingly has no bounds. It was well known that my kingdom has been expanding to the western sea, and yet you choose to organize a kingdom in land that naturally belongs to us? I personally refuse to allow this to happen. You will either submit to our authority or to our rule. Your choice.
OOC: I hate spelling.
jalapeno_dude
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Great update!
Have to figure out what to do next... no diplo as of yet.
Have to figure out what to do next... no diplo as of yet.
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The scratching of the stylus on the clay tablet barely paused at the sound of knocking on the heavy oaken door.
Come in, Brother, a hoarse, ancient voice said.
Galen pushed open the door slowly, and bowed in the doorway to the priest, who bowed his head in return. Pleasantries exchanged, he drew up a chair and waited with a touch of impatience for the old man to finish his writings. It was a few minutes before he was done; he turned the cuneiform-engraved clay around and pushed it towards the youth.
He gazed at it for a moment. Writing about the gods again, are we?
You know I could never stay away from philosophy. Read it, boy, and tell me what you think.
Galen gave an inward sigh, and began to read.
A fascinating peace, Sarasan. As well as very prescient.
I was hoping for rather more feedback than that, boy. In fact, I was hoping that this would prompt you into a discussion that would get us started on our lesson today. He looked annoyed, but Galen knew that, under the facade, he was amused.
He still wanted a real reply, though. Galen took a deep breath. Well, your analysis does sum up the religion quite nicely. However, it does fail to address the crucial debate that our religious leaders have been having in recent days
Indeed, it does fail in that aspect. Yexal is a beautiful religion in its tolerance, in its ability to let everyone find their own place in the world. Yet, the central rulers of the church naturally wish to make the rest of the world rather closer to their viewpoint. How to reconcile this discrepancy?
I think there is an absolute definition of right and wrong.
Do you, boy?
Yes, I do, he said stubbornly. There is a line in the sand that civilization must draw, where things become bad, or they become good.
A line, eh? Where exactly do you draw that line? For example, consider murder.
Murder is wrong.
Of course. But what if the murder will stop the murder of ten others? Of a hundred others? Of a thousand? Is there not some good in doing the murder if it stops the murder of others?
He thought. Hypothetical situations never settle any argument, he said, finally.
But they do raise an interesting point.
This cuts to the chase of the matterwhy did Mixa and Urxa give their blessing to people? It was not so that we could act in a way that most benefitted ourselves. We are all equal, though different, in their eyes, that is the most fundamental concept of Yexal, the most fundamental of all true gods. Thus, what they really want us to do is to be kind, to be good to others.
An interesting view. But doesnt that rather disparage Urxas role?
Not at all. The gods intend us to help each otherand sometimes, help must come by force. That is the essential concept of civilizationto help each other. It is what separates us from many of the animals
Not quite. Think of social animals.
There are many non-social animals.
But by striving to survive, to be strong, they are making the whole species strong, are they not?
I suppose they are.
Then there is little difference between us and the animals in that respect. Isnt that the fundamental nature of things, then, boy? That we are meant to be helpful to the whole?
He contemplated that. Yes, I suppose it is.
Sarasan paused to add dramatic flair.
So the true purpose of us on this earth is to help each other... Why is that?
Because that is the right thing to do.
Why is it right? Because the gods say so?
Galen stared. That was almost a blasphemous question. I suppose... That we should help others... because there could be no other reason that we should exist.
Not quite the best reasoning, boy, though you are getting there.
The central thing in anyones life, he said slowly, Is to help the whole he belongs to. It is to create a... a... It is to make the world... He grimaced. The reason why we should not be selfish is because other people deserve the respect we must give them. We are all living, breathing souls. We all learn, we all laugh, and we cry. Everyone is equal, and if everyone is equal... Then we are all deserving of mutual respect. And mutual respect means that we believe in the goodness of the whole.
So in conclusion? Sarasan prodded.
Thus, we are here on earth to make the best of things for everyone, because everyone deserves that much. We may disagree on the methods or means to attain it, but the true purpose of us in life is to be good to the whole.
And of course, theres no reason to act otherwise. If we act badly, then we will not be accepted into the kinship of the gods, and furthermore, we will destroy our reputation here on earth as well. If we act badly, then we are remembered badly, and our life will forever be devoid of any purpose.
Of course, there is one added reward.
Communion with the gods.
Aye. Its comforting to know that one day, you will have your own star blazing in the heavens.
And this fundamental belief in the goodness of all, and how we help each other
That, Brother, boy, is the essence of Yexal. So you see. My tablet did address the issue after all.
Er... How so?
The reason that we should listen to the central churchs thoughts on doctrine are that without the guiding hand of the godsand they are the hands of the gods upon the earth, there is only chaos, and out of chaos springs evil. Thus, that is why the Temple should be heeded.
And if they go wrong?
Its intentions that matter, boy. If we follow their instructions out of the desire to make good in the world, then good will come of it.
And that, he said with an air of finality, is the nature of Yexal.
Come in, Brother, a hoarse, ancient voice said.
Galen pushed open the door slowly, and bowed in the doorway to the priest, who bowed his head in return. Pleasantries exchanged, he drew up a chair and waited with a touch of impatience for the old man to finish his writings. It was a few minutes before he was done; he turned the cuneiform-engraved clay around and pushed it towards the youth.
He gazed at it for a moment. Writing about the gods again, are we?
You know I could never stay away from philosophy. Read it, boy, and tell me what you think.
Galen gave an inward sigh, and began to read.
A fascinating peace, Sarasan. As well as very prescient.
I was hoping for rather more feedback than that, boy. In fact, I was hoping that this would prompt you into a discussion that would get us started on our lesson today. He looked annoyed, but Galen knew that, under the facade, he was amused.
He still wanted a real reply, though. Galen took a deep breath. Well, your analysis does sum up the religion quite nicely. However, it does fail to address the crucial debate that our religious leaders have been having in recent days
Indeed, it does fail in that aspect. Yexal is a beautiful religion in its tolerance, in its ability to let everyone find their own place in the world. Yet, the central rulers of the church naturally wish to make the rest of the world rather closer to their viewpoint. How to reconcile this discrepancy?
I think there is an absolute definition of right and wrong.
Do you, boy?
Yes, I do, he said stubbornly. There is a line in the sand that civilization must draw, where things become bad, or they become good.
A line, eh? Where exactly do you draw that line? For example, consider murder.
Murder is wrong.
Of course. But what if the murder will stop the murder of ten others? Of a hundred others? Of a thousand? Is there not some good in doing the murder if it stops the murder of others?
He thought. Hypothetical situations never settle any argument, he said, finally.
But they do raise an interesting point.
This cuts to the chase of the matterwhy did Mixa and Urxa give their blessing to people? It was not so that we could act in a way that most benefitted ourselves. We are all equal, though different, in their eyes, that is the most fundamental concept of Yexal, the most fundamental of all true gods. Thus, what they really want us to do is to be kind, to be good to others.
An interesting view. But doesnt that rather disparage Urxas role?
Not at all. The gods intend us to help each otherand sometimes, help must come by force. That is the essential concept of civilizationto help each other. It is what separates us from many of the animals
Not quite. Think of social animals.
There are many non-social animals.
But by striving to survive, to be strong, they are making the whole species strong, are they not?
I suppose they are.
Then there is little difference between us and the animals in that respect. Isnt that the fundamental nature of things, then, boy? That we are meant to be helpful to the whole?
He contemplated that. Yes, I suppose it is.
Sarasan paused to add dramatic flair.
So the true purpose of us on this earth is to help each other... Why is that?
Because that is the right thing to do.
Why is it right? Because the gods say so?
Galen stared. That was almost a blasphemous question. I suppose... That we should help others... because there could be no other reason that we should exist.
Not quite the best reasoning, boy, though you are getting there.
The central thing in anyones life, he said slowly, Is to help the whole he belongs to. It is to create a... a... It is to make the world... He grimaced. The reason why we should not be selfish is because other people deserve the respect we must give them. We are all living, breathing souls. We all learn, we all laugh, and we cry. Everyone is equal, and if everyone is equal... Then we are all deserving of mutual respect. And mutual respect means that we believe in the goodness of the whole.
So in conclusion? Sarasan prodded.
Thus, we are here on earth to make the best of things for everyone, because everyone deserves that much. We may disagree on the methods or means to attain it, but the true purpose of us in life is to be good to the whole.
And of course, theres no reason to act otherwise. If we act badly, then we will not be accepted into the kinship of the gods, and furthermore, we will destroy our reputation here on earth as well. If we act badly, then we are remembered badly, and our life will forever be devoid of any purpose.
Of course, there is one added reward.
Communion with the gods.
Aye. Its comforting to know that one day, you will have your own star blazing in the heavens.
And this fundamental belief in the goodness of all, and how we help each other
That, Brother, boy, is the essence of Yexal. So you see. My tablet did address the issue after all.
Er... How so?
The reason that we should listen to the central churchs thoughts on doctrine are that without the guiding hand of the godsand they are the hands of the gods upon the earth, there is only chaos, and out of chaos springs evil. Thus, that is why the Temple should be heeded.
And if they go wrong?
Its intentions that matter, boy. If we follow their instructions out of the desire to make good in the world, then good will come of it.
And that, he said with an air of finality, is the nature of Yexal.
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This explains your question:
This earlier post solved that:
Now we're all good.
Cuivienen said:
This earlier post solved that:
andis-1 said:
Now we're all good.
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erez87 said:
Change or chance? You can make one yourself. Or I could. Or jal could, since he doesn't want me to delay my update any longer.
Cuivienen
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erez87 said:
I'll do one at some point today, since I'm so nice and there are a lot of new nations.
Andis, your stats are up. Sorry about that. About color, I'll use the color for the original Luca, but you'll need to provide the color value to me (in RGB).
Silver Steak
The Ghost of SS
Cuivienen said:
Today is rapidly becoming yesterday... Will you give us a present (the named map) today?
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Luca's color was R: 0, G: 128, B: 128.
Silver Steak
The Ghost of SS
The Sun and the Moon
The sun is a large sphere high up in the air, made up of the hardest rock in the world. It is both an imposing example of the mighty power of the Solmir (since Sol keeps the sun up in the air with his power over the air, and Mir drives the sun through the earth during the night) as well as it is a symbol of the eternal struggle for power. The sun is, however, primarily a symbol for the Son, due to its brilliant light when humans can see it.
Long ago, during the birth of the world, the Solmir found this rock crystal in the center of their creation. It was perfectly round, and indestructible, and both wanted it for themselves. Still, knowing a fight between them would be futile and foolish, they came to an agreement. The sun would be hung high up in the air for all the world to see, so they would learn to worship the Solmir.
As mortals began to grow in numbers, they looked up in the sky, and saw the brilliant sphere that was the sun. However, they took the daylight and its location up in the air as a sign that the sun was the Son's domain. This angered the Mother, who unleashed her fury upon the sun. This did not harm it, but set it into motion, causing it to revolve around the mortal realm. Thus, day and night was separated.
Later, Mir made a different sphere and set it up in the air so that it would hinder the light from the sun to reach the mortal realm during the day. Thus, the shadow was born. However, Sol called the winds to blow the moon off its course. Then he made so that one half of the sphere glowed - like the sun, but weaker - even during the night. Now the moon was completely dark only once in four weeks. He also set out the myriad stars in the air so the night would never become pitch black. This was in turn countered by Mir unleashing the shadows upon the mortal realm, and they constantly lurk wherever the light from the sun does not shine directly.
As can be seen from all these myths, the conflict between day and light, Mother and Son is a constant one. It causes both to blend, creating times and places with various lightings, from midday to midnight, from dawn to dusk. It also shows how the Solmir are inherently inseparable, and two parts of a whole. That is precisely why they are worshipped together, and not apart.
The sun is a large sphere high up in the air, made up of the hardest rock in the world. It is both an imposing example of the mighty power of the Solmir (since Sol keeps the sun up in the air with his power over the air, and Mir drives the sun through the earth during the night) as well as it is a symbol of the eternal struggle for power. The sun is, however, primarily a symbol for the Son, due to its brilliant light when humans can see it.
Long ago, during the birth of the world, the Solmir found this rock crystal in the center of their creation. It was perfectly round, and indestructible, and both wanted it for themselves. Still, knowing a fight between them would be futile and foolish, they came to an agreement. The sun would be hung high up in the air for all the world to see, so they would learn to worship the Solmir.
As mortals began to grow in numbers, they looked up in the sky, and saw the brilliant sphere that was the sun. However, they took the daylight and its location up in the air as a sign that the sun was the Son's domain. This angered the Mother, who unleashed her fury upon the sun. This did not harm it, but set it into motion, causing it to revolve around the mortal realm. Thus, day and night was separated.
Later, Mir made a different sphere and set it up in the air so that it would hinder the light from the sun to reach the mortal realm during the day. Thus, the shadow was born. However, Sol called the winds to blow the moon off its course. Then he made so that one half of the sphere glowed - like the sun, but weaker - even during the night. Now the moon was completely dark only once in four weeks. He also set out the myriad stars in the air so the night would never become pitch black. This was in turn countered by Mir unleashing the shadows upon the mortal realm, and they constantly lurk wherever the light from the sun does not shine directly.
As can be seen from all these myths, the conflict between day and light, Mother and Son is a constant one. It causes both to blend, creating times and places with various lightings, from midday to midnight, from dawn to dusk. It also shows how the Solmir are inherently inseparable, and two parts of a whole. That is precisely why they are worshipped together, and not apart.
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Silver Steak said:Today is rapidly becoming yesterday... Will you give us a present (the named map) today?
As soon as my mom comes home, I'll have a computer (her laptop) that has image editing. Until then, I can't do anything as my backup computer, which I'm still working from, has no image editing program. (I forgot yesterday that she wouldn't be home until late.)
Also, thanks NK.
Silver Steak
The Ghost of SS
Cuivienen said:
Well, at least you got the Lucan color now, before you finished the map.
Silver Steak
The Ghost of SS
In any case, no orders before the stats are up.
