Fentanyl Overdoses

I think legalizing the drugs that are being adulterated with Fentanyl will reduce OD deaths, but I've never used Fentanyl and cant imagine its appeal.
It makes everything feel okay for a little bit. It's effective for both physical and mental anguish.

It also has increasingly dwindling return and puts an expiration date on your lifespan if you keep with it.
 
Not similar either…
MDMA is not a dulling of the experience.
 
Mental anguish? hmm...sounds a little like ecstasy albeit I've never used it either

I have to agree. Opiates* are not MDMA. Not the same at all. Sort of "opposite," though the word isn't 100%.

*much less concentrated as fawk opiates, or sythesized ones. You guys think corn syrup is bad for you? like, lol, omg. There's no comparison. Really.
 
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People are usually pretty nice on a mix of mdma and bootleg adderall. But it’s not the same.
 
Moderator Action: Back to ODing please.
 
The Chinese emperor wanted to ban opium because he didn't want his 'subjects' getting high and slacking off. The same argument is still used by people who support drug wars, even South Park used the 'be all you can be' approach to abstaining from pot. I read an article about opium use in Gold Rush California, a drug war was waged against Chinese immigrants. A Chinese miner said the white miners would drink booze while Chinese miners used opium, and the Chinese let the white miners think the opium was worse than alcohol.

Next you will explain why the British also Banned consumption of opium while forcing it onto the Chinese
I dont mind if you want to legalize such substances, and learn why these were tightly controlled for medical purposes only by like everyone.

FF comes in like Fentynal is 10x meth!
nevermind that they are completely unrelated drugs with incomparable subjective experiences. I’ll be skipping that book recommendation xD

Thats my fault not the book. Its been years since I read it
E: A decade, since it was publish in 2009
 
Understanding why people do it will further your understanding of why people overdose.
dang it! FF ninja'd me but i was responding to BJ's moderator post............
 
Understanding why people do it will further your understanding of why people overdose.
dang it! FF ninja'd me but i was responding to BJ's moderator post............
I don't want this thread to be a "the joys of taking drugs" thread.
 
Next you will explain why the British also Banned consumption of opium while forcing it onto the Chinese
I dont mind if you want to legalize such substances, and learn why these were tightly controlled for medical purposes only by like everyone.

They were hypocrites... All drugs were legal in the USA for a long time, then we had a war on Chinese immigrants over opium, a war on cocaine because of freed black men, and then a war on pot because of those brown people. Racism is why drugs were banned here.
 
Well, the American war on pot can actually be traced back to newspaper baron William Randolph Hearst's war on hemp as a competitor to wood pulp. He and DuPont had bought up tracts and tracts of woodlands for their pulp and paper interests so they weren't going to allow hemp to come along and undercut their interests, and thus they demonized pot in the press, which Hearst basically monopolized at the time.
 
They were hypocrites... All drugs were legal in the USA for a long time, then we had a war on Chinese immigrants over opium, a war on cocaine because of freed black men, and then a war on pot because of those brown people. Racism is why drugs were banned here.

Race defintely factored into the kind of drug laws.
But to pretend that everything was just fine is pretty funny.

By 1895, morphine and opium powders, like OxyContin and other prescription opioids today, had led to an addiction epidemic that affected roughly 1 in 200 Americans. Before 1900, the typical opiate addict in America was an upper-class or middle-class white woman. Today, doctors are re-learning lessons their predecessors learned more than a lifetime ago.
The Civil War helped set off America’s opiate epidemic. The Union Army alone issued nearly 10 million opium pills to its soldiers, “Though it could cure little, it could relieve anything,” he wrote. “Doctors and patients alike were tempted to overuse.”
Throughout the 1870s and 1880s, medical journals filled with warnings about the danger of morphine addiction. But many doctors were slow to heed them, because of inadequate medical education and a shortage of other treatments

In 1982, Courtwright wrote, “What we think about addiction very much depends on who is addicted.” That holds true today, he says. “You don’t see a lot of people advocating a 1980s-style draconian drug policy with mandatory minimum sentences in response to this epidemic,” he says. “The wave of medical opiate addiction in the 19th century was more accidental,” says Courtwright. “In the late 20th and early 21st centuries, there’s more of a sinister commercial element to it.”

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...icas-19th-century-opiate-addiction-180967673/
 
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As there was a question regarding overdosing Fentanyl and I recently had a long discussion with a friend who works as emergency therapist for addicts here are some of her explanations:
In Germany the easiest access to Fentanyl ist via the legal pain medication which ist usually applied as patch/plaster.
When the addicted loose their access to unused plasters some seem to apply (several) used plasters. When the concentration of the used plasters gets low, or supply is not available they boil out the remains from the used plasters. One of the main sources for used plasters are waste containers of retirement homes.
As you can imagine the concentration of the boiled out Fentanyl varies wildly so overdosage ist just a matter of time.
Fentanyl addicts are the only addicts they refuse to treat as the mortality of the clients ist too high compared to the very low success rate of rehab/therapy.
 
That's a lot that was just said.

I'll think about it some. Thank you for sharing.
 
A toxicology report confirmed that former Hawaii quarterback Colt Brennan died of an accidental drug overdose earlier this year

"Brennan’s father, Terry, said earlier this year that his son was being treated at a rehabilitation center in the months leading up to his death.

Terry said that his son had “ingested something laced with fentanyl and never regained consciousness."
according to TMZ

thank god Fentanyl wasn't around when I was young, we need to defund the drug war and let people buy their drugs legally.
 
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