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First country to break up in the next decade?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Winner, Oct 7, 2008.

  1. really

    really Deity

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    Eh Ireland has free university education and one of the most generous social welfare systems in the EU.
     
  2. Mise

    Mise isle of lucy

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    I didn't know that. I don't regard it as "left wing" though. Not in the traditional sense. Maybe it's "left wing" in the same way that the current Labour gov't is?
     
  3. Jan H

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    Many comparisons between our country and Czechoslavakia have been made in the press. the conclusions were usually that there are indeed a lot of similarities, but at the same time also some big differences. I don't remember all the details, but the first one was the situation of Brussels, which is very complicated. Another one was the fact that Czechoslovakia was a relatively young nation (1918-1993 = 75 years), and they didn't really have much of a joint history before that. Belgium exists already 178 years and most of the country was already under a single ruler for much longer.

    But there is not much in common any more between the two regions:
    - separate political parties
    - separate television station, radio stations, newspapers, ...
    - I think all sports associations have been split in regional associations, with only a limited federal association to represent the country internationally
    - everything related to culture and education have been regionalised
    - even the Red Cross has been split in a Flemish and a Walloon wing
    - there used to be a strong group of companies and financial institutions that were really "Belgian", but most of them are gone now or have been taken over by foreign companies: Fina was taken over by Total, Sabena went bankrupt, its successor Brussels Airlines will be taken over by Lufthansa, Electrabel is part of Suez, and of course the latest takeover of Fortis (the main successor of the former "Generale Maatschappij/Société Generale Belge") by BNP-Paribas. Alll of these companies used to be "icons" of Belgium...
     
  4. Winner

    Winner Diverse in Unity

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    Another major difference is that Belgium is much richer than Czechoslovakia was in 1992, just 2 years after the Velvet revolution when the economy was struggling to reform. Slovak nationalism was amplified by the economic hardship of Slovakia and the Czech unwillingness to economically support the Slovaks without their clear commitment to accept political reforms which would have made the federation workable.

    Yeah, and in Czechoslovakia people understood each other's language.
     
  5. bob bobato

    bob bobato L'imparfait

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    But it could become smaller. Let's see....Vatican city has .44 km2, andorra has 468 km2.... that means that about 1063 Vatican city-sized states could be carved from Andorra:lol:.
     
  6. Luckymoose

    Luckymoose The World is Mine

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    Probably some African states.
     
  7. Masquerouge

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    North Korea? Apparently things aren't as locked as they seem...
     
  8. Naval Power

    Naval Power Sailing the Seven Seas

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    The US, if V for Vendetta is to be believed.
     
  9. negZero

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    Merging into a country with no remainder, I believe doesn't count as a break up.
     
  10. Rossiya

    Rossiya Fridge Magnet Porn

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    I don't think Spain will split, but I do think the UK will. Last to go will be Northern Ireland, after Wales and Scotland, and then I think England will split up - Cornwall for example. The government is too soft on these foreigners! EXTINGUISH THEM.

    Don't know about Pakistan or Bolivia, but I hope Kosovo is given back to Serbia, that Bosnia is split up, and the same for Belgium. I hope that the same will happen to those other pointless countries, Luxemburg and Switzerland.
     
  11. Shylock

    Shylock Hey smiling strange

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    At least you have waffles.



    The US, it can't keep up this empire with tons of welfare spending. It will definitely be paired down over the next 20 years if not colllapse all together. Maybe a revolution in the cards somewhere but I doubt that will make anything better.
     
  12. Fadan80

    Fadan80 Adriana Lima Fan

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    The situation here in my country Mexico is not looking good, in politics and narcotraffic.

    Sadly it is a possibility also :(
     
  13. Joe Harker

    Joe Harker 1st in the Premiership!

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    Northern Ireland won't become a seperate nation, they will either stay joined to England or be merged into Ireland, because after all that the only reason Northern Ireland exists is that the majority of people in those northern terrioities want to stay part of the UK.

    I get the feeling that if Scotland spilt from the UK nothing would actually change, because afterall, our eccomny is so intertwined that a complete seperation would be impossible, so politically there would be a spilt, but socially and eccomnicly nothing would change.
     
  14. Arwon

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    Sounds like minorities to me.
     
  15. WICKLC1

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    Mexico, Iraq, Georgia(sort of already has).

    If things keep getting worse in the US, I wouldn't be surprised to see things getting violent 20 years down the road.
     
  16. h4ppy

    h4ppy You sir, pineapple?

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    Mexico might face a revolution (though I very highly doubt it) but its borders won't change.

    As for new nations, if Georgia, Morocco and Israel don't count as options then I would say Somalia, Sudan or Bosnia.
     
  17. chad187

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7656662.stm

    There is an arms race between north and south Sudan and there will probably be an independence war 2011 and Darfur also wants to break off it seems no one really wants to be part of the country which is dominated by the Arab north.
     
  18. Winner

    Winner Diverse in Unity

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    A slightly off-topic question, but I'd like to know how anti/pro-European are the non-English parts of the UK (Wales, Scotlant and Northern Ireland). UK is often seen as the most eurosceptic country, but everybody pretends its a monolithic bloc which I doubt. Are the Scots/Welsh more pro-EU than the English?
     
  19. RedRalph

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    Its possible, but I dont think it'll happen. Looked a distinct possibility a few years back
     
  20. RedRalph

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    Purely anecdotally, I would guess Wales & Scotland would be more pro EU, in the north the Loyalists are anti EU and Nationalists generally speaking would be warm towards it. but this is just observations, not figures to back it up.
     

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