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Guess we can take it as a given that chariots/carts won't require horses?
I don't think any of the unique units require resources.
Guess we can take it as a given that chariots/carts won't require horses?
From Pete Murray:
Some people are fast out of the gate in Civ. The Aztec, for example, and the Scythians, are two Civs that bring a lot of hurt early. But Sumeria is something else entirely. When humanity wakes at the Dawn of Time in Civ, Gilgamesh has been up for half an hour already, has made you breakfast, built a Ziggurat, hitched up the War Cart, and is ready to go.
Gilgamesh is your new best friend. He loves, and I mean loves his allies. He feels your pain. He rejoices when you rejoice. He goes to war with you. He is fired up. He has the car loaded. Montezuma declares war on you. Before Tomyris is finished denouncing him, Gilgamesh is punching Monty in the face with his enormous, beefy fists. He calls his left fist "The Vengence of Ur" and his right fist "The Vengence of Enlil." You've pointed out that maybe he could pick another nickname than "Vengence" for one of those fists, but he always laughs and slaps you so hard on the back you can hear your teeth rattle.
Then he holds Monty upside down and shakes him, and points to the pocket change that falls out: "Go halfsies?" he asks, grinning.
Everyone knows that Gilgamesh is about the business. Everyone knows you don't touch his friends, because he will come for you. And when you play as Gilgamesh, you can take care of your friends when they get hurt. You don't get the Warmonger penalty when you declare war on anyone at war with your allies. You are Gilgamesh. You look after your own, man. Because you know, deep down inside, in the marrow of your bones, that it wasn't technology or religion or agriculture that caused civilization to come into being.
It was friendship. Gilgamesh extends the Vengence of Enlil to you, and you bump it with your own.
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What I'm wondering is if in Civ VI it's much harder to bribe the AI to war without you joining them than it was in V. If that's the case, Gigla's abilities will be in high demand.
He also is one of those civs it seems like a really bad idea to anger. For his UA to work, you want to be the one of his good side and make sure the other civs are on unsteady ground. What we don't know yet is how to keep him happy. If you do end up on a continent with 3 people (him, you, and a third) either you or the other civ is going to get attacked so for sure that will be some delicate diplomacy!
i noticed on the FL video that Washington loses the farm improvement when Sumeria captured the capital. Can someone explain why that happened?
"He can declare war on anyone at war with one of his allies without any warmonger penalties."
This should keep relations good with most Civs in a game, effectively negating penalties that others have towards you, like Scythia's.
Halfsies!!! That means if you are playing Sumer and some of your pesky allies are around, you only get half experience and half loots??? Why would I do that ...
That and the wheel tech comes so early that expecting folking to have improved horses by then would relegate such a unit to the trash pile. Don't think even vanilla chariots will require horses for that reason.I agree that surely they won't require horses. We know Scythia doesn't, for the same reason.
Scythia will still dislike declaring surprise wars, because it's agenda, not warmonger penalty. For the same reason, you could get bad relations with Teddy if start on the same continent.
I'm not entirely certain what the historical basis for getting goody hut bonuses out of barbarian camps is supposed to be.
I assume it's meant to represent the idea that the Sumerians invite their enemies to join their civilization after defeating them, rather than just wiping them out or enslaving them.
... and shared loot and experience sounds like something that will very rarely come into play.