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[FIXED] Mounted Defense Bonus Against Ranged Attack

Discussion in 'Civ5 - Bug Reports' started by KCMcG, Sep 25, 2010.

  1. KCMcG

    KCMcG Chieftain

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    I'm not sure if this is a bug or a "feature" but when attacking using a ranged attack with a chariot archer, an American Spearman got a 100% bonus against mounted units. I understand that technically a chariot archer is a mounter unit, but it should count as a ranged unit when making a range attack. I expected the spearman bonus to only apply to melee or direct attacks.


     
  2. Anastomosis

    Anastomosis Chieftain

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    Yes, that makes much more sense. Strange it was overlooked.
     
  3. KCMcG

    KCMcG Chieftain

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    After playing through my first game, I haven't noticed this issue with any other units. It seems like a bug to have a defensive bonus just because the ranged attack is coming from a chariot instead of an archer. Can anyone confirm this?
     
  4. Zelig

    Zelig Beep Boop

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    Confirmed, same deal with war elephants.
     
  5. The_J

    The_J Say No 2 Net Validations Retired Moderator Supporter

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    Could someone please look in there, if just the display is wrong, or if also the applied damage is wrong?
     
  6. jacyp

    jacyp Winter Lover

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    I have the same issue here.

    Based on damage dealt to stronger units than spearman that don't have the bonus agains cavalry, I would say that the bonus is actually being applied when it comes to the damage.

    This is very easy to check in-game The_J.

    Set up a spearman and a horseman side by side on the same terrain and attack them with a chariot. Chances are that the horseman will take more damage than the spearman, dispite the force of earlier being +2 than the later.
     
  7. The_J

    The_J Say No 2 Net Validations Retired Moderator Supporter

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    Okay, confirmed, moved.

    I don't have Civ5 and don't plan to buy it.
     
  8. civcivv

    civcivv Warlord

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    My cavalry (25 str, gunpowder unit) was killed by a Chariot Archer (6 Ranged str, ancient era unit) inside a city, taking 4-5 damage each turn.

    Reason was that Cavalry receives a penalty against mounted units. But against a Chariot archer?! I can understand it in melee but definitely not in ranged combat when my muskets would probably outrange their bows anyway.

    This is likely related to spearmen getting a bonus defending against mounted archer attacks.

    1.0.0.20
     
  9. KCMcG

    KCMcG Chieftain

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    That's what you think, longbows outrange trebuchets and cannons by 50%.

    OT: I noticed this same issue and I think the bug was confirmed. A chariot archer was attacking a spearman. For some reason a chariot archer does half the damage of an archer on foot because the spears have special anti-chariot arrow deflectors.

    Moderator Action: Threads merged. The_J
     
  10. BomberEscort

    BomberEscort Don't be alarmed; this is a kindness Supporter

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    This was fixed in the latest patch (1.0.0.62) and can be removed from the list or struck thru...
     
  11. The_J

    The_J Say No 2 Net Validations Retired Moderator Supporter

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    Also thanks here, added a "fixed" to it.
     

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