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[FIXED] Research Agreement break by AI give you tech

Discussion in 'Civ5 - Bug Reports' started by fmiracle, Sep 26, 2010.

  1. fmiracle

    fmiracle Warlord

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    I do not think it was supposed.

    But last game I set up research agreement with Washington on turn 176 and on turn 182 he attacked me. All deals were canceled and I recived the Steel tech for free.

    It was totally unexpected, but handy :)
    Still I think it's a bug.
     
  2. Demartus

    Demartus Chieftain

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    On a related note, I had Ghandi offer me a research agreement, to the tune of 900 gold (marathon speed). At the time, I only had ~500 gold, but it allowed me to accept, and I was only deducted a fraction of the amount.

    I've also had a research agreement with the AI never come to fruition, despite the time long having passed.
     
  3. UNIT 666

    UNIT 666 One of Many

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    Yeah, it has to be a bug. I had the same thing happen to me a while ago, though it was me declaring war on him, instead. Our research agreement was cancelled completed (even though 30 turns had not passed) and I received a tech.
     
  4. BjoernLars

    BjoernLars Warlord

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    I was offered a research agreement from Songhai a turn or two after our previous research agreement was successfully completed. Two turns after the new research agreement, I declared war on him and I received one free tech from this, saying that the research agreement was completed.
     
  5. ainwood

    ainwood Consultant. Administrator

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    Can you please provide saves showing how to reproduce this bug?

    Thanks.
     
  6. draaibaar

    draaibaar Warlord

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    Well, i didn't get a tech from Bismarck...Next turn in the save my research agreement with him appears as completed in F4 but don't get anything..

    EDIT: In the notification log F7 you can also see that i got a free technology from Augustus Caesar (turn 117), allthough my research agreement was only 4 turns old (turn113), but Augustus' was destroyed.
     

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  7. Gagilence

    Gagilence Chieftain

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    Me and Aztec had a research agreement, they were annihilated by India, and I received technology before 45th turn.
     
  8. ShadowXOR

    ShadowXOR Chieftain

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    I can confirm this.
     
  9. Zen Blade

    Zen Blade Warlord

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    I had this happen with the Egyptians, who were eliminated.

    I think, essentially, if a research agreement is terminated (for any reason), you get a tech. Whether this is a bug or a feature, I cannot say.

    However, since all agreements are broken during war (or annihilation), this includes a research agreement, which probably translates to free tech.

    This can be exploited since... you can form an agreement, go to war, receive tech. Go to peace, sign agreement, 10 turns later go to war again, receive tech... etc...
     
  10. jacyp

    jacyp Winter Lover

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    I can confirm this too.

    My next goal will be to check if YOU declare war on the other civ, if you get the tech also.

    If this only happens when they declare war on you, I think it's fair that you at least recieve some kind of research bonus based on the amount of turns passed, and the declarant gets nothing. To compensate the money spent.

    I wanna test this cos I saw the Iroquoi devastating their continent after making several research agreements with the other civs, and they got fast ahead of me on tech race (I was leading 1 tech ahead, 200 turns later, I was losing 13 techs behind, epic speed). It ruined the game.
     
  11. ainwood

    ainwood Consultant. Administrator

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    We need save files to send to firaxis, so that they can see what's going on behind the scenes. If someone could provide a save showing where broken research agreements give you techs, that would be very useful.
     
  12. sanabas

    sanabas Psycho Bunny Hall of Fame Staff

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    I discovered this bug while researching a different bug.

    In this save, I have 5 research agreements, with Japan, Iroquois, Rome, America and the Ottomans. Declaring war on any of them will give us both a tech. Declaring war on all 5 will give 5 techs. This game was started in 1.0.0.20, I'm 99% sure.


    Can't attach the file to this post, unless I'm missing something. Attachment manager says I've already uploaded it, but I see no link to attach it to this one.

    http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=265486&d=1285642509 is attachment link, http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=265486&d=1285642509 is the post in which I attached it. German150 is the save.
     
  13. ainwood

    ainwood Consultant. Administrator

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  14. sanabas

    sanabas Psycho Bunny Hall of Fame Staff

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    One more save, this time before signing a research pact. I saved before bed, and did a quick test. Sent a lux to someone for cash, gifted america cash, then signed a research pact with them. Declared war that same turn, and received Metal Casting for free from the research pact.
     

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  15. jacyp

    jacyp Winter Lover

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    I knew that this was the cause for the Iroquoi to have jumped ahead of me so quickly, damn bastard exploited a bug without even knowing! :p

    Nicely done.
     
  16. vmxa

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    At first I thought it was my imagination, but every time I go to war with anyone that I have an ongoing research deal, it compeletes?
     
  17. The_J

    The_J Say No 2 Net Validations Retired Moderator Supporter

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    Thanks for reporting :), but it's already known.
     
  18. Guardian_PL

    Guardian_PL Emperor

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    Yes it is, I have the same issue.
     
  19. Izipo

    Izipo Hardcore casual gamer

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    I can confirm this too.

    Also, when I look at the deal history in the diplomatic overview, all the past deals are listed at the current price (i.e. 300), but I'm sure I only paid Oda Nobunga 200gold back in 200 AD.
    A very minor bug, but still, it's annoying.
     
  20. Mathias

    Mathias OCC Rocks!

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    I wouldn't exactly call this one a bug. I'm sure it is by design, although it should be one-sided. If the backstabbing AI declares war, I'd better get my free tech. If, on the other hand, I declare war, then forfeiting the free tech is consequential. Let the AI have his, though -- it won't be of much use after I've beat him to a pulp.
     

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