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football thread No11

Discussion in 'Sports Talk' started by Carras Dad, Feb 26, 2013.

  1. warpus

    warpus In pork I trust

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    Canadian wonderkids training

    (The two guys on the right are two kids coming up from our academy we are especially excited about)

    edit: actually signed to our first team already
     
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  2. Takhisis

    Takhisis Jinping, wer fragt uns?

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    The ‘who killed Diego Maradona?’ story continues. Next week there will be a demonstration… whatever happens, his ‘entourage’ consisting of slimy lawyer, quack doctor and psychologist will forever be branded as the ones who lost the people's idol.

    It really has been a pathetic end, these past few years of Maradona's life. Minor successes at best (runners-up of the Mexican second division, scaped relegation in Argentina by it being abolished with covid-19 as an excuse), and then handled by an entourage of people who kept him away from his family and in increasingly bad health: voice messages and texts leaked this week reveal how the team were conspiring to fake his medical history in case/for when things went wrong.

    :ack:
     
  3. Serutan

    Serutan Eatibus Anythingibus

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    Sad indeed.
     
  4. Takhisis

    Takhisis Jinping, wer fragt uns?

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    UEFA and its member associations and teams decided to cancel the CONMEBOL world cup qualifiers by refusing to allow Latrin American players to go home to play their matches.

    What are we on to by now, octuple standards?
     
  5. warpus

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    Canada's olympic qualification campaign begun today and how am I only just now learning about Tajon Buchanan (technically did a week ago, but still)

    Goal 1
    Goal 2

    Canada beats El Salvador 2-0.

    Tajon Buchanan (the scorer of both goals) comes from Brampton, which has a reputation for producing Canadian footballing talent. All these players grew up in Brampton: Atiba Hutchinson, Junior Hoilett, Iain Hume, Doneil Henry, Cyle Larin, Paul Stalteri, Jonathan Osorio, and last year's Canadian female soccer player of the year Kadeisha Buchanan. Nothing to sing about by European standards, but Brampton just happens to consistently produce good football players. The most promising young Toronto FC player (Jahkeele Marshall-Rutty) is also from Brampton. He holds the record for being the youngest to have ever been called up to the national squad.

    You might think "Good for Canada, but so what?". Well, it turns out that this isn't just a coincidence. Brampton is a city of 600,000 or so and is usually overshadowed by nearby Mississauga (830k) and Toronto city proper (2.93M). And yet I can't name even one Canadian soccer player from Mississauga.. and I can't remember who exactly might have been born in Toronto. Brampton is a part of the GTA (Greater Toronto Area), so when people say "Toronto" they usually include Brampton.. but what I'm trying to say is that statistically speaking you wouldn't expect so many of our promising players to come from this one place.

    The reasons for this seem to be several factors coming together:

    1. Brampton has been one of the fastest growing populations in Canada, much of it due to immigration. As a result many of the soccer powerhouse ethnicities are represented in the city. A lot of people who live here are passionate about football.
    2. State of the art facilities, strong local clubs, and good and accessible infrastructure -There are a lot of youth and other football clubs with a lot of Bramptonians registered as players.
    3. Ease of access, I guess. Brampton is a part of the GTA and is well connected and has many transit options, including its own BRT network, a connection to the regional BRT & regional rail networks, it's well connected by highways and it also happens to be not too far away from the largest airport in Canada. All of that makes it easy for anyone to get around.
    4. The history of soccer in the region has helped the existing clubs recruit coaching staff and spend time fine-tuning approaches to youth systems, training, etc.

    There might very well be more to it. The conclusion so far is that diversity is good, investment in the local community and public transit is good, and let's see what happens in the next match
     
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  6. Arwon

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    We got our men's and women's qualifications in ahead of the pandemic, but they've been repeatedly postponing the South Korea vs China two-game women's qualifier to complete the AFC qualifications. Those matches are due now in early April.

    There's also a women's inter-confederation playoff between Chile and Cameroon due in Turkey in that same international window.
     
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  7. JohannaK

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    This has been a most interesting season in Barcelona. This team feels completely different from the team that started in the fall. In many ways, it really is a different team.
     
  8. Takhisis

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    The old ‘Atlantic League’ project has now been officially revamped as a European super-league, it is announced today. As commentators say, other clubs won't be allowed in even on sporting merit.
    Already UEFA had set out the horrendous precedent of their new competition format with a ‘Swiss system’™ and worse.

    In the meantime, it is worth noting why Europe’s biggest clubs have decided to go now. Barcelona are £1bn in debt and facing one of the biggest financial crises in their history. Real Madrid were unable to afford a single big signing last summer. Juventus have to find around £100m by the end of June. Internazionale’s owners sought emergency funding in February.

    These are the most lucrative clubs in the most lucrative sport in the world: the sharpest minds, the smartest guys in the room. Are we really to believe that these galaxy brains can work together to organise a breakaway league when they can barely keep a roof over their heads?

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    ‘Hey, you win competition by cheating on your finances! Your punishment is to get more money!’

    FIFA itself intends to go ahead with its World Cup in Qatar.

    West of the Atlantic CONMEBOL has announced that it has purchased vaccines specifically for the sham intercalary edition of the Copa América that has already been postponed once.

    Are these executives intentionally trying to kill football? I intend to watch none of the above proposed farces.
     
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  9. Arwon

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    So if all these players were banned from national teams, which teams would benefit the most at the world cup by weakened opponents?
     
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    Germany would be in the best position : no german team is currently in the superleague announcements.
     
  11. Takhisis

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    Yes, it would be ze Germans and possibly also Netherlands and Belgium.

    Also the South American qualifyers would be interesting.
     
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    Belgium would lose many major players from this (Hazard, Lukaku, Alderwereld, Courtois, De Bruyne, Carrasco), it would definitely cripple them. I'm already confident that France > Belgium currently, but without the top club players France >>>>> Belgium.
    PSG helps Brazil and to some extent Argentina too.
     
  13. Takhisis

    Takhisis Jinping, wer fragt uns?

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    Well, the six English clubs now say they are out so the ESL probably will collapse.

    This time around.

    As long as teams are owned by profiteering gazillionaires instead of their fans they will remain closer to US ‘franchises’ than real clubs.
     
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    France would also lose a few top players, surely. Varane, Griezmann, Dembélé...
     
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  15. AdrienIer

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    True, our entire midfield is in those 12 clubs and a few of our other players are there as well. But you can definitely make do with some solid local players, plus the Munich people and Mbappe
     
  16. Takhisis

    Takhisis Jinping, wer fragt uns?

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    Actually I think it'd be yet another boost for Europe in a weird way. The rest of the world's best players flock to Europe's highest-paying clubs which would have been removed from competition. The rest of their players don't play in Europe so those are not even in contact with football as played at the highest level. Whereas Europeans' home league players are actually those used to training to higher standards and playing (until now) against these superclubs.

    Still, as pointed out today in the Grauniad, the official communiqués by the ‘big clubs’ (most of them owned and bankrolled by international gazillionaires) are really to the effect that those ‘clubs’ are just waiting for another moment when fans won't be so vocal about their wish to be represented by their actual hometown clubs.
     

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