Firaxis/2K's representatives do read this forum.
Though they probably won't do anything about it.
The Thai government might care about this, but 99% of people who play civilization (like me) wouldn't care if they made him look white and Christian.
I'm sorry, I agree with you on everything else, but this is just silly. It's obviously not King Naesuan, otherwise you'd have endless Naresuan clones in your army, sicne even one unit is represented by multiple people. Besides, witht he Great Generals it is likely there will be national heroes for other countries, like Horatio Nelson or ... Err... Robert E. Lee?, anyway, we have to see those killed, potentially, so moaning about that is being kinda silly.3. Naresuan's elephant might make people misunderstand that the one riding it
is King Naresuan the great, He reclaimed independence of Siam
so it would be unimaginable to see hem killed by tank or spearman
so change its name to Royal war elephant or Royal elephant
Well, other people's counties have sutpid stuff as well, for one thing England instead of Britain. We even have Longbows, British Longbows were made using Welsh wood -_-'. So yeah, Siam might be quite a bad example, but everyone else has it the same as well.ichibang said:I think that If your country is included, you would clearly want it to look good.
The Thai government might care about this, but 99% of people who play civilization (like me) wouldn't care if they made him look white and Christian.
I think Thailand is a big market now, especially as Siam has been included. Might this also bleed onto other SEA nations?
I think Thailand is a big market now, especially as Siam has been included. Might this also bleed onto other SEA nations?
I can see Cambodians burning copies of Civ5 to protest the inclusion of Siam instead of the Khmers.
That would be a nice reason for Firaxis to do nothing
but seriously, if he was white it would look too stupid ,wouldn't it?
Well! since Firaxis selects my country, I want it to be as best as it can.
I think that If your country is included, you would clearly want it to look good.
So am I!
Are thai people REALLY that sensitive about their king?
They have a censorship, you know. And could go to jail for insulting king's name. That's rather different from USA.
I guess you also missed my post with the photograph? Yes, they really are that sensitive, and more.Are thai people REALLY that sensitive about their king?
Well, whatever the case, it's a small fix that they could do that could bring in a much bigger financial reward then how much they'd spend to make it more realistic."As of March 26, 2008, Civilization IV has sold 3 million copies according to Take-Two Interactive."
Civ5 might do better, but certainly won't sell 1 million copies in thailand. I hate to be stereotyping, but most of the illegal content I come across on the internet is either from Russia or Asia. If the market really was that great, then they might change it, but I still believe that the majority of paying customers are to be found in the west (where those statues could be elephants, and we wouldn't know any better).
The statues looks fine to me. If you don't like them, just replace the civ with your own mod.
Well, whatever the case, it's a small fix that they could do that could bring in a much bigger financial reward then how much they'd spend to make it more realistic.
The statues look fine if you are playing India. It'd be like playing the Ottomans with Big Ben or a Shinto shrine in the background. It's stupid of Firaxis who were bragging how much effort they put into getting the leaders to speak into their native tongues and even going as far as resurrecting a dead language to not even do a little research into Thai culture. A half arsed effort if you ask me.
Why go that extra mile? That has nothing to do with expected market penetration or copy behaviour. They should because the game designers and publishers have clearly put a lot of effort into the design of the civlizations in terms of the rendering of the leaders, but also picking the UU's (they gave the elephants to Siam for a reason, no?). So the aim should be to be as accurate as possible, within reason. If they gave George a moustache, I'm sure we'd have threads asking it to be removed for not being historically correct.My point was: why go that extra mile, when it's a questionable market anyway? The amount of people playing a game isn't always the same as the amount of people buying the game sadly. Intellectual property and copyright infringement is a well-known problem in Asia.