OK I read all of it. This is what I would like us to propose to Ot4e: Ot4e wants some clear goal of cooperation for such a long NAP. He wants a goal for the alliance, like how the purpose of the last NAP was to destroy RB. So now we have to say we are cooperating to destroy somebady else. So aks him who he wants to destroy, UCiv? OK fine, lets start planning with him to destroy UCiv, and set a NAP that gives us enough time to kill CiVFr and then kill UCiv.