Forest > Hill now in Civ 5?

[andrewlt]

I've noticed that mines only give +1 production now while I remember it being +2 in Civ 4. There might've been a later tech that would bump it to +3, though I'm not sure on that one. I don't recall any technology or anything that would bump it up from +1, either.

Lumber mill, on the other hand, is the same +1 to production, going to +2 with a later tech. I'm actually building lumber mills on forests and then building trading posts on non-river hills (river hills still get a mine) to take advantage of golden ages. If I discover a strategic resource later on, that's only when I replace the trading post with a mine.

 

[KrikkitTwo]

Yup
Forest>Hill
Jungle>Grassland

 

[andrewlt]

And trading post on jungle to not remove it, right? Or is there something else?

 

[Traxis]

Plains>Grassland as well

 

[Myth5]

I still remember how you hoped to God that you would get like 5 "Salt" grasslands in the Civ 3. Now grassland tiles only beat tundra and desert...

 

[Prototailz]

The real usefulness of jungle tiles comes from University afaik, since it gives you +2 beakers to jungle tiles. Also, you would probably want to build a trading post on them because you get +1 beaker from rationalism tree. So if you're aiming for a science/gold city jungles will be very useful.

 

[hexem3117]

I gotta say, what is up with Jungles giving +2 beakers per tile with Universities? The only thing I can think of is that scientists go there...to study things. To learn about animals...or figure out new types of medicine...

Being a grad student in Biology, it's a rather flimsy reason. Not that it's the only thing that makes no sense in CiV, though there are a million threads devoted to that already.

 

[AlienFromBeyond]

Yup
Forest>Hill
Jungle>Grassland

Yup, this is why the Iroquois are stronger than they appear at first glance. I had a city busting out over 100 hammers a turn thanks to the Longhouse, since it adds base hammers that then get multiplied. Too bad it was my capital so I couldn't get the railroad production bonus as well .

 

[pi-r8]

Yup
Forest>Hill
Jungle>Grassland

everything is backwards in this silly game!
plains > grasslands
hills > flat land
flood plains = grasslands

 

[Alexfrog]

everything is backwards in this silly game!
plains > grasslands
hills > flat land
flood plains = grasslands

Yes. The terrain yields are HORRIBLE.