Fox hunting has returned

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BBC said:
Hunts are buying birds of prey in an attempt to side-step the ban on fox hunting with hounds, falconry experts have warned.

Up to 30 hunts are said to have bought golden eagles and eagle owls in the belief they are acting within the law.

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The law does not restrict the number of dogs that can be used to flush wild mammals for a bird of prey to hunt.

So much for the argument that hunts wanted to retain their 'sport' for reasons of tradition :rolleyes:


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The reason it is tradition is because people enjoy it. If they didn't enjoy it, no one would care if it was banned or not. They are merely trying to get around a law that makes absolutely no sense. I could care less if people hunt foxes using dogs, guns, or anything else. Using hawks is strange, but they wouldn't use them if they were allowed to use dogs.
 
Hunting with highly trained birds of pray is actually an ancient style of hunting.

Its really rare today but some nature people still do it even though they can hunt with rifles and shotguns.

I doubt this will become popular as to replace banned UK fox hunting with hounds because it takes years to train a single bird.

Still its a good way for hunters to snub their noses at the anti-hunting lobby.
 
Evil Tyrant said:
The reason it is tradition is because people enjoy it. If they didn't enjoy it, no one would care if it was banned or not. They are merely trying to get around a law that makes absolutely no sense. I could care less if people hunt foxes using dogs, guns, or anything else. Using hawks is strange, but they wouldn't use them if they were allowed to use dogs.
I disagree with your interpretation of foreign traditions. Fox hunting is not a generic blood sport: it is very a specific event entrenched in the image of British country side, that followed strict methods and protocol.

Any bastardisation of it, cannot be said to be true to the traditional solutions. Note that foxes will seek cover in fox holes, where a bird of prey cannot reach them. The newly described variant of blood sport must be artificially engineered and contrasts greatly with traditional methods.

I also feel inclined to emphasise that they do not use hawks. Eagle Owls are particularly aggressive and known to turn on their keepers.
 
stormbind said:
I disagree with your interpretation of foreign traditions. Fox hunting is not a generic blood sport: it is very a specific event entrenched in the image of British country side, that followed strict methods and protocol.

Any bastardisation of it, cannot be said to be true to the traditional solutions. Note that foxes will seek cover in fox holes, where a bird of prey cannot reach them. The newly described variant of blood sport must be artificially engineered and contrasts greatly with traditional methods.

I also feel inclined to emphasise that they do not use hawks. Eagle Owls are particularly aggressive and known to turn on their keepers.

I see, thank you for correcting me. :hatsoff: :thanx:
 
It's okay, the government will respond by making the ownership of birds of prey illegal.

Then, the foxhunters will come up with something new, and the government will try to make that illegal as well.

Ad nauseum.
 
Using owls is lame. They should go with their bare hands or sharpened sticks.
 
blindside said:
Using owls is lame. They should go with their bare hands or sharpened sticks.
Bah! A true sportsman hunts with his own telekenetic powers.
 
I really don't understand why people think that hunting is such a good thing??

The idea that some old tory can ride on a horse and slowly and painfully kill a fox is a "fun sport" just doesn't work for me. Could someone please enlighten me on why fox hunting is ok?
 
EnglishPunk said:
I really don't understand why people think that hunting is such a good thing??

The idea that some old tory can ride on a horse and slowly and painfully kill a fox is a "fun sport" just doesn't work for me. Could someone please enlighten me on why fox hunting is ok?
Guesswork leads me to think that supporters find the red and white uniforms, bugle horns, horse riding, and country manors to be in some way romantic.

People do not actually see the fox suffer. Out of sight is out of mind.
 
They can still find the red and white uniforms, bugle horns, and horse riding to be in some way romantic without painfully killing foxes.
 
Cheetah said:
They can still find the red and white uniforms, bugle horns, and horse riding to be in some way romantic without painfully killing foxes.
It was only a guess ;)

Are you suggesting a new national holiday, celebrating outmoded hunts, with harmless reenactment: children wearing floppy ears and searching for the puppet fox...
 
IglooDude said:
It's okay, the government will respond by making the ownership of birds of prey illegal.

Then, the foxhunters will come up with something new, and the government will try to make that illegal as well.

Ad nauseum.
Robots, I say.

Gaint Death Robots.

Gaint Death Robots with X-ray lasers, flamethrows, an plunger-like device to crush fox skulls. And a really cool catchprase. I am think along the lines of R2-D2.

But I cannot see the British make something like that.
 
Are you being sarcastic and poking fun at the British-made Daleks which remain contained in secure BBC studios dotted around the nation?
 
hunting giant rats with a whole bunch of dogs is fun, how? fun for the dogs?

maybe romantic for those who admire anything that is old and weird..

ill admire anyone who goes grizzly hunting armed with a spear and maybe bow and arrows, but i dont see why killing a big rat would be honorable...

worthless...!
 
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