Fox vs. CBC

[Goonie]

TORONTO - Fox News commentator Bill O'Reilly has lashed out at a CBC documentary featuring guests who were highly critical of his show.

* RELATED: The Fifth Estate

"Vicious attack on Fox News by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, totally out of any kind of bounds," said O'Reilly in his response Friday night to the Fifth Estate broadcast on Jan. 26.

"How low will they go? We'll show you the tape and you won't believe it!" was another response found on the Fox News website.

The Fifth Estate's website says the documentary examines the "war of words that's pitting conservative against liberal."

"It's loud, it's raucous, but does it have anything to do with the truth?" the site asks about the new kind of hard-hitting political debate on U.S. television.

Journalists, media watchers and other talk show hosts in the documentary took aim at the O'Reilly Factor and show's relationship with the truth.

In turn, the host had two guests on his show who agreed with him about the CBC.

"The Canadian government gives them a billion dollars to put this sort of stuff on the air, and the Canadian government is really at fault here, isn't it?" O'Reilly said to one guest.

"You scare the hell out of them, Bill," the guest answered.

CBC refused an invitation to appear on O'Reilly's show Friday night, and O'Reilly refused to be interviewed for the Fifth Estate broadcast.

In the past, O'Reilly has called the CBC radically to the left, the Globe and Mail a "far-left newspaper," and Canadian health care "socialist."

He and his conservative colleagues say they're doing journalism that is fair and balanced.

The Fox News Channel is the highest-rated news network in the United States. In mid-December, Rogers Communications announced it had added Fox to its all-digital channel lineup, becoming the first in Canada to do so.

I have always thought of the Fifth Estate as being extremely balanced in it's search for the truth. I admit I did not see this documentary, but they are renowned for putting on excellent documentaries, and have worked with PBS and the New York Times in the past.

What is this O'Reilly character like? Just someone out there to stir the pot? Level, balanced? Hot head?

Let's hear it.

 

[punkbass2000]

I would very much like to see this documentary.

EDIT: Oh, and, IMO, Canadian healthcare is very socialist. So is both countries' education system. So what? This almost sounds like the McCarthy era.

EDIT EDIT:

He and his conservative colleagues say they're doing journalism that is fair and balanced.

Whether or not this is true, I don't think it necessarily contradicts the CBC. Politics is highly opininated, and it is quite possible for some thing approaching the Whole Truth to be known about a particular issue and for many people to have many different perspectives.

EDIT EDIT EDIT: Beyond all that, is FOX funded (directly) by the American government, comparable to the CBC's funding? What is wrong with (arguably) the Canadian government criticizing an American journalist? Though I don't agree, I can mildly understand people's problem with direct attacks on the government itself (and the MP that called them all "idiots", etc., was way outta line), but we're not allowed to analyze and discuss American news programs?!

 

[YNCS]

In the past, O'Reilly has called the CBC radically to the left, the Globe and Mail a "far-left newspaper," and Canadian health care "socialist."

This tells me that O'Reilly's definition of "socialist" is "something I disagree with." Either he doesn't know what socialism is, in which case he's a fool, or he does know but misuses the word anyway, in which case he's a knave.

 

[RedFusion]

totally out of any kind of bounds,

Wow, out of any kind of bounds, that's pretty far out there!

Let's just face it, fox "news" is not a news organization, it's entertainment media, that's all. MSNBC and CNN are also, but just too a lesser degree. These organizations, especially fox don't care about the truth, all they care about is ratings, hence the endless coverage of that laci petterson crap or the michael jackson stuff. I haven't met an intellegent person who could stand sitting through more than 5 minutes of the crap any one of those networks spits out. I'm just thankful that I have digital cable to give me real news sources, and I pity those that are subject to the crap on Fox E!.

 

[phoenix_night]

I've found this programme online, so I'll watch it later.

Sounds good though. Well done the CBC.

 

[AceChilla]

I've found this programme online, so I'll watch it later.

Sounds good though. Well done the CBC.

Can you give us the link?

 

[phoenix_night]

Can you give us the link?

I don't have a link as it's on a news server. Do you have access to any? If not, maybe someone knows of somewhere I can upload it?

 

[Yom]

I want to see this documentary.


By the way, O'Reilly is a nutcase. Check out the "the fox news" thread to see a video about him and the many times that he tells his guests and those who disagree with him to shut up.

 

[AceChilla]

I don't have a link as it's on a news server. Do you have access to any? If not, maybe someone knows of somewhere I can upload it?

If it isn't bigger than 30mb , you could try it here:

Rapidshare

 

[Azadre]

Fox News is my Pravda

 

[phoenix_night]

If it isn't bigger than 30mb , you could try it here:

Rapidshare

Actually it's over 100...

I have it split into 20mb files though...Does that help?

 

[AceChilla]

Actually it's over 100...

I have it split into 20mb files though...Does that help?

I guess you could put those parts on there seperatly. I don't have experience doing that though. Maybe it has a limit to how much files you can upload. But you can try.

maybe the file is available somewhere else on the net though. Do you have the filename?

 

[~Corsair#01~]

Is the Fox News is the ridiculously Republican biased one, or the ridiculously Democrat biased one? I can't remember.

 

[phoenix_night]

Sure...the filename is: The Fifth Estate - Sticks & Stones.avi

 

[Yom]

Is the Fox News is the ridiculously Republican biased one, or the ridiculously Democrat biased one? I can't remember.

Republican. There's a station ridiculously biased toward Democrats?

 

[AceChilla]

I found This torrent file where you can download the show.

 

[newfangle]

1) I saw the documentary, and thought it was excellent.
2) I hate the CBC and dispise the fact that the Canadian government finances something that competes with private corporations.

So I'd have to say that Billy raises a valid point, but is still an idiot.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

The Canadian news I see here on cable is mostly notable for the high percentage of ugly anchor people. Being accustomed to the pornstars who read the news in the U.S., it can be very unsettling at first.

 

[punkbass2000]

1) I saw the documentary, and thought it was excellent.
2) I hate the CBC and dispise the fact that the Canadian government finances something that competes with private corporations.

So I'd have to say that Billy raises a valid point, but is still an idiot.

Albertans

 

[h4ppy]

I would very much like to see this documentary.

EDIT: Oh, and, IMO, Canadian healthcare is very socialist. So is both countries' education system. So what? This almost sounds like the McCarthy era.

EDIT EDIT:

Whether or not this is true, I don't think it necessarily contradicts the CBC. Politics is highly opininated, and it is quite possible for some thing approaching the Whole Truth to be known about a particular issue and for many people to have many different perspectives.

EDIT EDIT EDIT: Beyond all that, is FOX funded (directly) by the American government, comparable to the CBC's funding? What is wrong with (arguably) the Canadian government criticizing an American journalist? Though I don't agree, I can mildly understand people's problem with direct attacks on the government itself (and the MP that called them all "idiots", etc., was way outta line), but we're not allowed to analyze and discuss American news programs?!

No, Fox is a private company with no fedral funding.