France the policy rusher: does it matter?

[SirPepsi]

I suppose that when playing as France, their ability there would be useful. Policy rushing in this order could provide an easy path for a cultural victory:

Tradition
Liberty
Piety
Patronage
Freedom/Order

But Napoleon's natural aggressive tendencies pretty much destroy any benefits the AI reaps from this...Even if he can expand and maintain flourishing culture, he tends to focus on military production.

I guess that their Policy Rushing could also allow for the first GE or GS (I always go for the GE) and that could help for later in the game, but I don't think that France's ability to expand and acquire quick culture sets the stage for disproportionate power.

 

[Unresolved]

I doubt you'll be able to finish 4 trees before the Industrial Era, culture rushing or not. The culture rushing would be most effective when policy costs are low, which is the first 2 trees or so.

 

[flairin]

In that case, Id open with tradition then work on Liberty focusing on settler 1st. Throw in a couple puppets. Then finish liberty out while building oracle to get some free cultural buildings

 

[Maxym]

I suppose that when playing as France, their ability there would be useful. Policy rushing in this order could provide an easy path for a cultural victory:

Tradition
Liberty
Piety
Patronage
Freedom/Order

I guess that their Policy Rushing could also allow for the first GE or GS (I always go for the GE) and that could help for later in the game, but I don't think that France's ability to expand and acquire quick culture sets the stage for disproportionate power.

That is a terrible SP order for CV.

Maybe Trad open,
then liberty to settler, then to new city SP discount
Finish trad
Piety to 10% SP cost reduction
Then Freedom till full ( this is where real culture generation is)
Finish liberty.
Last one situational, patro, commerce or even honor. If barbs are raging early honor opener is ok too.

And unless you need GE for a very important wonder like Sistine and AI is about to beat you to it a GS to get faster industrial and open freedom or another GA to plant or burn is better.

 

[budweiser]

I think you should partially open tradition while teching to classical then take three or four in piety while you make a wonder in the capital.

 

[flairin]

I've finished Liberty then Tradition while going two deep in Piety @t160, so that is like one policy per 11.5 turns. Producing more culture than turns played and have yet to build Opera Houses... have 5 cities plus two puppets. I started with Tradition, got Legalism second then made the switch to Liberty. Completed Liberty then went back to Tradition. Cathedrals = great combo with Amphi!! Chose not to rush culture buildings. Had a lot of plantations so Oral Tradition helped. Nice when each new city founded gave 5 culture right off.

 

[Maxym]

If I could finish liberty before hitting industrial I would, but usually that's not the case, you need the 10% SP cost reduction in piety asap and 33% per wonder. While getting to those I find myself unable to finish liberty. But I do prioritize science and rush buy unis to hit industrial asap, around t 160.

 

[Justice1337]

This weekend I had a Skill-Dorado opening while playing France. Rush bought Settler T8, settled near El Dorado and worked the tile for 5 culture. I opened Liberty and had 4 cities by turn 40, with 6 workers. I was able to clear Egypt and Polynesia off my sub-continent by about T120, building NC at T80.

Granted, that's what El Dorado will do, but the opening was staggeringly strong with France opening Liberty.