French presidential elections - Who would you vote for ?

Who would you vote for ?

  • Gérard Schivardi (PT)

    Votes: 2 1.6%
  • Arlette Laguiller (LO)

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Olivier Besancenot (LCR)

    Votes: 6 4.9%
  • José Bové (RAG)

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Marie-Georges Buffet (PCF)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dominique Voynets (Verts)

    Votes: 2 1.6%
  • Ségolène Royal (PS)

    Votes: 29 23.6%
  • François Bayrou (UDF)

    Votes: 28 22.8%
  • Nicolas Sarkozy (UMP)

    Votes: 32 26.0%
  • Frédéric Nihous (CPNT)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Philippe de Villiers (MPF)

    Votes: 5 4.1%
  • Jean-Marie Le Pen (FN)

    Votes: 6 4.9%
  • Abstain, go fishing, whatever.

    Votes: 11 8.9%

  • Total voters
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Here are the twelve candidates of the presidential elections, I will try to sum up their programs so that you could pick the one you would vote for ! :D


Gérard Schivardi

Age : 57 years old.
City of birth : Narbonne.
Political party : Parti des Travailleurs (Workers Party)
Political movement : paleolithic communism

Main proposals :
  • Unilateraly leaving the EU.
  • Returning to the French francs.
  • Nationalizing French major companies (those included in the CAC40 Stock exchange index)
  • Developping the public services in rural areas.
  • Getting rid of the French regions (centralization of powers).



Arlette Laguiller

Age : 67 years old.
City of birth : Paris.
Political party : Lutte Ouvrière (Industrial workers struggle)
Political movement : old school trotskysm

Main proposals :
  • Creating a tax on stock exchanges.
  • Raising the tax on company benefits to 50%
  • Raising the level of taxation up to 80% for the richest household.
  • Creating 1 million public housing appartments.
  • Raising the minimum income directly to 1,500 € monthly (US$2,000) without tax.


Olivier Besancenot

Age : 33 years old.
City of birth : Paris.
Political party : Ligue Communiste Révolutionnaire (Revolutionary Communist League)
Political movement : post-trotskysm

Main proposals :
  • Creating a tax on stock exchanges.
  • Cancelling all debts (public and private) of poor countries.
  • Forbidding layoffs in beneficiary companies.


José Bové

Age : 54 years old.
City of birth : Talence.
Political party : Rassemblement Antilibérale de Gauche (Anticapitalist Left-wing rally)
Political movement : alter-globalism

Main proposals :
  • Creating a tax on stock exchanges.
  • Cancelling all debts (public and private) of poor countries.
  • Forbidding GM food research.
  • Creating a large rally unifying all the far-left political forces.


Marie-Georges Buffet

Age : 58 years old.
City of birth : Paris.
Political party : Parti Communiste Français (French Communist Party)
Political movement : post-stalinism

Main proposals :
  • Creating a tax on stock exchanges, etc...
  • Influencing the socialist party in making it lean more to the left


Dominique Voynet

Age : 49 years old.
City of birth : Montbéliard.
Political party : Les Verts (The Greens)
Political movement : environmentalism

Main proposals :
  • Creating a tax on polluting activities
  • Creating a tax on oil companies benefits
  • Getting rid of nuclear power (70% of power in France)


Ségolène Royal

Age : 54 years old.
City of birth : Dakar, Senegal.
Political party : Parti Socialiste (Socialist Party)
Political movement : social-democracy

Main proposals :
  • Involving more citizens in political decisions.
  • creating a new job contract specific to youngsters (subsidized jobs).
  • Strengthening regional powers.
  • Allowing gay marriage.
  • Raising the minimal revenu to 1500 € (US$2,000) monthly and before taxation by 2010.


François Bayrou

Age : 56 years old.
City of birth : Bordères.
Political party : Union des Démocrates Français (French Democrats Union)
Political movement : ultra-center

Main proposals :
  • Creating a small business act similar to the one in the US.
  • Allowing the creation of 2 tax-free jobs for each smaller company.
  • Strengthening the European Union.
  • Inviting left-wing and right-wing politicians to join him in a kind of "coalition of the willings".


Nicolas Sarkozy

Age : 52 years old.
City of birth : Paris.
Political party : Union pour un Mouvement Populaire (Popular Movement Union)
Political movement : pro-business liberalism

Main proposals :
  • Making a large-scale policy sponsoring business activity (Working more in order to earn more).
  • Creating a policy of affirmative action to fight discriminations.
  • Proposing to the EU a smaller treaty consisting only of the part 1 of the constitution which would be ratified in France without a referendum.
  • Creating Job centers similar to UK ones where we lose subsidies after having refused 3 jobs corresponding to our profile.
  • Making a policy of "chosen immigration" inspired by the Canadian system.


Frédéric Nihous

Age : 39 years old.
City of birth : Valenciennes.
Political party : Chasse Pêche Nature et Tradition (Hunting Fishing Nature and Tradition)
Political movement : hunting ruralism

Main proposals :
  • Developping the public services in rural areas.
  • Rethinking hunting policies and limitations.
  • Creating tax-free areas in rural areas in order to sponsor business development.


Philippe de Villiers

Age : 58 years old.
City of birth : Boulogne (Vendée).
Political party : Mouvement Pour la France (Movement for France)
Political movement : patriotic conservatism

Main proposals :
  • Getting rid of the 35 hour week.
  • Getting rid of the taxation on high fortunes.
  • Reducing national level of taxation to 38% of the GDP.
  • Creating national tax-barriers to protect French employment.
  • Supporting French Patriotism.


Jean-Marie Le Pen

Age : 79 years old.
City of birth : La Trinité-sur-Mer.
Political party : Front National (National Front)
Political movement : far-right wing

Main proposals :
  • Getting rid of the 35 hour week.
  • Banning access to subsidies to foreigner migrants.
  • Sponsoring access to employment for French citizens.
  • Making a new code of citizenship based on blood.
  • Getting rid of speed cameras on French roads and motorways.
 
From what you've said, I think Bayrou sounds like a decent candidate.

Out of curosity, has Voynet explained how cutting four-fifths of its power would benefit France?
 
From what you've said, I think Bayrou sounds like a decent candidate.

Out of curosity, has Voynet explained how cutting four-fifths of its power would benefit France?
In sponsoring clean powers (wind turbines, solar panels, and so on...) and in limiting power consumption (better isolations of houses, limiting car usage, etc...).

However, she doesn't want to do so in only one mandate, it's a long term strategy which should be followen during decades.
 
Olivier Besancenot, entirely based on your post. i know nothin` about french politics.
... now, is his communist party actually socialist, or opportunist like the japanese communist party [which would keep capitalism and the monarchy]?
 
Either Royal or Sarkozy. I don't know enough about French political issues to make an informed decision between them.
 
In sponsoring clean powers (wind turbines, solar panels, and so on...) and in limiting power consumption (better isolations of houses, limiting car usage, etc...).

However, she doesn't want to do so in only one mandate, it's a long term strategy which should be followen during decades.

While I agree that those things should be done, is it being marketed as "make cleaner energy" or "get rid of nuclear"? I mean, personally, I wish my country looked at nuclear the way France does (y'all reprocess spent fuel, right?), but solar and the like are really the best way to go if they can supply power to a large scale economically. If France is in a position to do that, then that's wonderful. Until then, nuclear is the best way I can see for the near future.
 
Olivier Besancenot, entirely based on your post. i know nothin` about french politics.
... now, is his communist party actually socialist, or opportunist like the japanese communist party [which would keep capitalism and the monarchy]?
His motto is "100% to the left". So yes, he's a genuine communist. ;)
 
Making a new code of citizenship based on blood.

Jesus, Le Penn sounds scary! Or were you just being very selective, there? ;)

Personally, it seems like Nicolas Sarkozy and Royal are the most viable candidates. But since I don't know all that much about the French people.. I wouldn't know which side has the most popularity. :crazyeye:
 
While I agree that those things should be done, is it being marketed as "make cleaner energy" or "get rid of nuclear"? I mean, personally, I wish my country looked at nuclear the way France does (y'all reprocess spent fuel, right?), but solar and the like are really the best way to go if they can supply power to a large scale economically. If France is in a position to do that, then that's wonderful. Until then, nuclear is the best way I can see for the near future.
Yeah indeed, nuclear waste are reprocessed. Globally, I share your view on the issue.

Ségolène Royal, the socialist candidate, wants to reduce polluting power plants (oil and coal) to 0%, and this through the development not only of solar and wind energy, but also with dams. I think somewhere France is lucky to have the possibility to actually reach such a target.
 
I would vote for who ever is more likely to start a riot by winning. You crazy french!

Jean-Marie Le Pen
Any one who wants to get rid of speed cams is a good man.

François Bayrou
This the guy I'd probaly vote for.
 
Jesus, Le Penn sounds scary! Or were you just being very selective, there? ;)
Actually, I haven't really been. To tell the truth, fear has always been his best marketing tool.

Personally, it seems like Nicolas Sarkozy and Royal are the most viable candidates. But since I don't know all that much about the French people.. I wouldn't know which side has the most popularity. :crazyeye:
I didn't want to add the current trends of opinion polls to the opening post in order to not really influence people. But I guess I will later. :)
 
Okay so here are their average results in opinion polls (I've included in the average all those from April made by 7 different poll companies).

Nicolas Sarkozy (UMP) - 28.6%
Ségolène Royal (PS) - 23.9%
François Bayrou (UDF) - 19.1%
Jean-Marie Le Pen (FN) - 13.7%
Olivier Besancenot (LCR) - 4.1%
Marie-Georges Buffet (PCF) - 2.5%
Arlette Laguillet (LO) - 2.0%
José Bové (RAG) - 1.8%
Philippe de Villiers (MPF) - 1.4%
Frédéric Nihous (CPNT) - 1.3%
Dominique Voynet (Verts) - 1.2%
Gérard Schivardi (PT) - 0.4%

Remember that to be elected in France, we should reach more than 50% of voters. If that's not the case during the 1st round (something usual), there's a 2nd round in which only the two best candidates of the first round participate.

As such, the 2nd round will oppose most likely Sarkozy to Royal.
 
Okay so here are their average results in opinion polls (I've included in the average all those from April made by 7 different poll companies).

Le Pen still polls that high?

I thought many French were embarrassed that he was the second-ranking candidate last election...

Although 13% isn't really that high a polling, but in such a large field, that's quite a bit of support.
 
Le Penn's support would probably be no different from Pat Robertson's had he decided to become a politician. I think every country is destined to have at least one. It's actually nothing surprising, I think.
 
Le Pen still polls that high?

I thought many French were embarrassed that he was the second-ranking candidate last election...

Although 13% isn't really that high a polling, but in such a large field, that's quite a bit of support.
Well, those who were embarrassed weren't those who voted for him. :sad:

At last election, Le Pen reaches the second round of the election with a result of only 16.8%. Actually, the interest in this election is very strong and if Le Pen makes 13%, he would have as many voters as last time, it's only because participation is stronger that it makes a lesser percentage.

Last election was between two sixty year-old candidats which were doing politics since the 70's : Jacques Chirac for the right wing and Lionel Jospin for the left wing. If Le Pen has reached the second round, it's more because both made pathetic scores than because Le Pen made a fantastic score.

Anyway, at this election, it seems that there are really 4 large candidates and 8 very small candidates. Obviously many people want to vote "usefully" (i.e. for the candidate which is the closer to their taste having the better chance to win it all).
 
Le Penn's support would probably be no different from Pat Robertson's had he decided to become a politician. I think every country is destined to have at least one. It's actually nothing surprising, I think.

I don't think Le Pen is very clerical in his far-rightism. Unless I am mistaken, it mostly the brown skeined people that disturbs him.

I go with either Bayrou or Royal. Except for them, Sarkozy and Voynet, the candidates seem kind of nutty to me.
 
I'd vote for Arlette Laguiller (LO), but I'm a pink-o commie, so my opinion doesn't count.
 
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